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Honda S2000, Convertible
#170 of 420 Moving on, but never forgotten
Sep 20, 2005 (3:32 am)
Well, as of 7 days ago, I am the owner of a new 2005 911 S Cabriolet. It had been 16 months since I traded my 2002 S2000. At various times while shopping, I thought I might end up with another S2000. But our financial situation allowed a splurge, and both of my daughters fit (for now) in the back seat of the 911. That alone is worth the slight ($65k) premium.
As much as I will be enjoying our new "family sports car" as my youngest refers to it, I will never forget our Honda S2000. It was my first real sports car, since my old 1984 Toyota Supra (hatchback) was more of a sports coupe/GT. I still smile when I see other Honda S2000's on the road - especially Spa or Rio Yellow ones. And believe it or not, in the first week of 911 ownership, I haven't had as many comments or compliments as I had that first week with the S2000. Not that I care much, but it was funny having people gawk at a Honda.
So for all of you fortunate enough to own an S2000, congratulations. For all of those considering one, you would be hard pressed to find a better sports car for under $55,000, let alone $35,000.
Best wishes to all.
#171 of 420 Re: Moving on, but never forgotten [habitat1]
Sep 20, 2005 (10:40 am)
Never have owned a Porsche - probably never will. The lone area dealer is a pain to deal with for sales or service. Friends have them and swear by them - and it is a way to say "I have arrived" - and have super driving dynamics.
For the $65k "premium" I could get an RX-8 w/GT package (w/4 doors and a back seat) AND an S2000 AND have a nice chunk of change left over.
Oh, wait - I DID that
I splurged on an M5 a few years back. Super car, but lots of problems for the few miles I put on it. Sold it and my 01 S2000 and got 3 news cars (the 05 S, the 05 8, and an Accord for my wife). Splurge cars are fun, but I have had bad luck with mine - the M5 and a C5 'vette convertible.
Sep 20, 2005 (12:16 pm)
If I were ever to step up to a new toy, it would definitely be a Porsche. But I am only 32 and 60+ grand on a car is way out of my budget but I agree that owning a Porsche is like say "I've made it". Congrats on your purchase!
Good to see you jumped over your typical run-of-the-mill Boxster and went straight for the 911, good choice.
#173 of 420 Re: Dealer only made $360 on this deal [jsamof00]
Sep 24, 2005 (3:24 pm)
jsamof00, I too live in SoCal and am intrigued by the deal you found - Will you share the dealer name? Thanks,
#175 of 420 Re: Dealer only made $360 on this deal [jb2005]
Sep 28, 2005 (7:31 pm)
You can get these deals at Power Honda Costa Mesa (Sebring Silver) or Carson Honda (Yellow).
#176 of 420 Closing out the 2005's
Oct 20, 2005 (6:33 am)
If you're looking to get an S2000 on the cheap, you can get great deals now that we are heading into winter. I was offered $29,000 on one, which is a little less than the dealer's cost, even taking into account the holdback. They want to clear them out to make way for the 2006's, which I fear you may not ever be able to get a great deal on, because production will be limited.
Personally, even with the great brand new 2005 deals, I opted for a Certified Preowned. It's a 2004 in the color combination I wanted, with 11k miles, brand new tires, and the 7 year/100,000 mile warranty for only $25,000 even. That's not much higher than trade-in value, and it's lower than private party. It's in great condition too, except for a small scratch on the rear bumper and another small one next to the headlight. Well worth it for the $$ savings and the added warranty coverage. The dealer even showed me in his computer that they were in the hole about $900 on it.
Those of you in the greater DC area, I highly recommend Shockley Honda in Frederick. Very helpful, friendly, enthusiastic, and knowledgable. Cut a great deal, too... better than any other one I could find online, even searching country-wide and going so far as to make an offer on several.
#178 of 420 '06 will be limited production?
Oct 22, 2005 (6:41 pm)
Are you guys sure about that? Dang, I was going to wait till March or so to sell my Integra so I can get an '06 S. This means there won't hardly be any discounts if there aren't enough cars to go around. Usually limited production means that the S is on its way out. '06 might be the last year then. I hope not. I would like to see a new more powerful S in the next couple of years.
I auto-xed a white '05 a couple of weeks ago that my friend bought in early September. It was an awesome experience. I always wanted one but that single 55sec. autocross run made me want one very badly. I almost matched my modified Integra's time and my Integra has race suspension, LSD, bigger sway bars, etc. and race tires. The S2K was completely stock with the factory tires. The course was however a little faster than a typical SCCA course. The club was a private club and non-SCCA. I was impressed by the S's handling capabilities out of the box (with no Konis or expensive adjustable shocks) as well as the braking, but the 8K redline came up very fast several times and I kept hitting the rev limiter which I didn't like because it slowed me down. Shifting up to 3d and back down to 2nd again was not an option because it would have hurt my times even more since I 'd only be in 3d for a second or so. The brakes also took me by surprise and found myself braking early a couple of times at the first half of the course and getting back on the gas! I did get used to them pretty fast and started braking later and deeper. I also noticed it wasn't as tail happy as an '01 that I had been in (another auto-x run but I was in the passenger seat). The '05 felt more neutral but it exhibited some unexpected understeer at high speed cornering (more than my Integra that was on R tires) most likely because of the tires and me driving over their adhesion limit (overdriving the car).
Anyway I was at my local Honda dealer today. The sales manager said they won't be getting any '06 models for another couple of weeks. They still have two '05's left over! I was thinking of offering them $28K but I was afraid they might say ok. Without selling the Integra first, I would have had a hard time making the payments since I just bought a new '06 Civic for my very long commute and a CRV for the wife a few months ago.
#179 of 420 Re: Closing out the 2005's [okwiater]
Oct 26, 2005 (3:57 pm)
I leased an '05 Silverstone Metalic in June and got the rack rate at the time - $299/mo. I did not take a hard line on negotiations because: 1. Peak drop top season. 2. Terms were reasonable, although as I read in this column, they could have been better. The dealer did throw in a Honda car cover and wheel locks. 3. I had test driven an '02 two weeks earlier and had to have one. I have owned numerous sports cars and sport sedans, but the S2K is a totally different driving experience. It is a great combination of handling, performance and style. If anyone is looking for a new, never titled '04, black on black Murray Honda, DuBois PA has one that can be bought right.