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Buying '05 S2000 in Southeast by tmcconatha
Jun 09, 2005 (7:56 am)
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From what I've gathered on the net, S2000 prices appear to be lower in the Western states than in the Southeast. The MSRP here is $33665 which includes the destination fee. Edmunds TMV is $31447. We've negotiated a price of $30817.
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Drove two of them by anythngbutgm
Jun 09, 2005 (9:35 am)
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Drove an 02 Suzuka Blue back to back with an 05 gun-metal Gray on Sunday. The 02 has just 12k on the clock and the dealer wanted $24,900. Front clip was scuffed in a few locations and there were some scrathes which I did not care for. So now I want the 05. We are in the process of haggling right now and are pursuing a price $29,000.
 
Two questions, the 02 was crazy fast, but I couldn't seem to get the thing to rev anywhere near the 9000 mark. I was shifting at around 5500, seemed like it would take me 20 miles to get to the 9 grand mark, it just didn't want to get there... Is this normal?
 
The 05 was so much different, It was more like driving my Accord than the '02 S2K. Does the motor really loosen up that much as the miles accumulate? It wasn't a slug, but it didn't seem to have the crazy nature of the '02...
 
Thanks for the help in advance.
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New '05 from Dealer has 149 miles by tmcconatha
Jun 09, 2005 (10:25 am)
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We've negotiated the deal on the car - they had to get it from another dealer, I guess(?). We signed a "Buyers Order" and gave them a check for $1000. They called yesterday to say the car was there and will be ready when we're ready to take delivery next week. Husband decided to get the extended warranty, so we get them to ammend the buyers order which was faxed to me this morning. It states on the ammended "Buyers Order" the VIN # and that the car has 149 miles on it.
Does that mean that it could have been a demo and was driven wildly by test drivers? What if, anything, should we do?
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Re: New '05 from Dealer has 149 miles [tmcconatha] by kyfdx HOST
Jun 09, 2005 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: tmcconatha (Jun 09, 2005 10:25 am)

Do you know what dealer the car came from? They usually drive cars between dealers... old retired guys...
 
149 miles is not much... If it was a test driver, it didn't get very many drives.. We all want cars with 4 miles on them, but it doesn't always happen.. Especially with a model that some dealers only keep two or three of...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: New '05 from Dealer has 149 miles [kyfdx] by tmcconatha
Jun 09, 2005 (11:10 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Jun 09, 2005 11:05 am)

No, I didn't ask, though I'm sure they would tell me. So far I've had a very pleasurable experience with this dealership, my first NEW car, first negotiations, etc. I'm not really concerned about it, just making sure that I shouldn't be. Thanks!
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New question: Dealers A & B by tmcconatha
Jun 09, 2005 (11:26 am)
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I got quotes online before going to dealerships. First we're thinking Used Car. We go test drive 2004 S2000 with only 8800 miles at Dealer A. Nice car. We go home and talk, search prices and find New are not much more than the Used. Decide on New. Find online price of $30299. Call Dealer A - they say ok but can you just call them and ask them about extras they add on, etc. I say I did and only tax, title & doc fees are added. He asked me to call the online dealer back with another question. I say ok but don't. Why should I if they want to sell me a car?
 
I find Dealer B. I call and they match the $30299 price. We go and test drive new car. They don't have the color I want. We sign a Buyer's Order for the black car, give them a check for $1000 'Earnest Money". They call and say the car is there and ask when we want to take delivery. I asked for an ammended Buyer's Order with the Extended Warranty added which was faxed to me this morning. As of yet, it is unsigned.
 
The sales Manager for Dealer A calls today and says they want my business. They have a new Black '05 and they will beat the other dealer's price, throw in a 250,000 mile Powertrain warranty, and deliver the car to my house (50 miles one way) and bring the paperwork.
 
What do I do since Dealer B has our $1000 check and the Buyer's Order?
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Re: Drove two of them [anythngbutgm] by dwynne
Jun 09, 2005 (11:37 am)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jun 09, 2005 9:35 am)

The 2.0 motor (and I assume the newer, larger motor) has two rev limiters in it - one is the cold limiter and the other is at 9k. When the water temp has not reached operating temp (three bars on the display) you can't "VTEC" the motor and it bumps it on the cold limiter. Once it is fully warmed up it should wind to the full 9k without problem. You should feel and hear the VTEC when it kicks in at 5k or so.
 
If you shift before the VTEC you are driving a 100hp car
 
The newer car will loosen up over time, but it will never rev to 9k The newer motor has more torque so will pull better from a stop and before you hit the VTEC zone.
 
Dennis
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Re: New '05 from Dealer has 149 miles [tmcconatha] by dwynne
Jun 09, 2005 (11:40 am)
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Replying to: tmcconatha (Jun 09, 2005 11:10 am)

I agree with kyfdx, I would like a no miles car but that just is not practical. Most of the time the "runner" that goes and gets the car is the one that puts the miles on it (or some of them) anyway. Too expensive to flat bed the car from dealer to dealer.
 
My slightly used 2001 S had just over 1k on it when I got it and it has been just fine.
 
Wow! An S2k for a first car - not bad. Mine first new car was a '79 Fiat X1/9 - which was a heck of a lot of fun for that time.
 
Dennis
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Re: New '05 from Dealer has 149 miles [dwynne] by tmcconatha
Jun 09, 2005 (11:46 am)
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Replying to: dwynne (Jun 09, 2005 11:40 am)

No, not my first car... my 1st NEW car. We have had new cars every 2-3 years, which the hubby usually has 98% of the time. This one he's buying for me (birthday/anniversary gift) and it will be mine all mine! I have had a nearly-new car but never a brand new one that was all mine.
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Re: New question: Dealers A & B [tmcconatha] by dwynne
Jun 09, 2005 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: tmcconatha (Jun 09, 2005 11:26 am)

Honda does not offer a "250,000 mile" warranty so that is some 3rd party thing that MAY not be worth the paper it is written on. So that just means how much will they beat the other dealer by. Sounds like you got a decent price if they don't add a bunch of dealer fees on it. I would tend to stick to my word - I said I would buy it from dealer B and gave them a check so unless dealer A blew the deal into the weeds I would honor my "promise" and get the car from B. If A gives YOU a signed order a lot less and no fees, then I would be tempted to call dealer B and explain the situation. A deal is a deal, but saving money is saving money.
 
Keep in mind dealer B had to go get (or swap) for the color you want - so they are out some time and trouble if you back out of the deal. If the "A" dealer wanted your business they should have stepped up to the plate the first time. I would get their out the door offer, but unless it is just serious bucks below "B" then honor your word.
 
Also, you can get a HondaCare extended warranty (the ONLY one to get) for a discount online - it does not have to be purchased with the car. I am better the dealer is making a lot of money off of your warranty purchase.
 
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/hondacare/warranty.htm
 
for example gets $1,285 for the 7yr/100k/$0 deductible plan, the 7/75k/$0 should be $200 or so less. Other dealers online may have a lower price. DO NOT PAY your dealer too much for the warranty - either have them match the online price or get it elsewhere.
 
Also, I always recommend waiting before getting the warranty. It is pro-rated refunded should your car be totalled, stolen, or you trade it in. There is almost NO reason to start this "clock" now when you can buy for the same price in 24,000 miles or 24 months. It goes up $60 if you wait until 36,000 and 26 months.
 
Dennis

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