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Re: Try living in Australia [davhan] by gagrice
May 08, 2006 (6:28 pm)

Replying to: davhan (May 08, 2006 4:05 pm)

feeding wild birds outside the back door.
 
I guess life is not so much different here in the USA. We feed about 50# of bird seed a month to a variety of wild birds. My favorite are the bright yellow Orioles. They feed from the humming bird feeders around the yard. I spent an hour watching a Bewick's Wren taking bugs and spiders to her nest inside a BBQ glove. I have a tough life now that I am retired. Thank you so much for the generous offer. I would love to look you up if we get a chance to visit Australia.
 
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Prius v. Matrix? by marys236
May 15, 2006 (4:15 pm)
I'm thinking about buying a Prius or a Matrix, and would welcome any opinions. I want a small to midsize wagon or hatchback, that gets over 30 MPG. I have it narrowed down to a Matrix or a Prius. I considered a used 2005 Jetta wagon, but they want $25,000 for the one I looked at, which seems kind of steep. With the Prius tax credit, which I understand should be available until the end of September, the Prius seems like a better deal, plus I don't have to worry about particulate emissions. The Matrix is significantly cheaper, but it's really hard to find a 2wd with ABS and side curtain airbags, and I don't want a 4wd, because of the mpg loss. I might be able to special order what I want, not sure yet. The other small wagons seem too small, and don't get great mileage. Has anyone else compared the Prius and Matrix?
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Prius vs Civic Hybrid by godzillaismad
May 17, 2006 (4:29 am)

Replying to: marys236 (May 15, 2006 4:15 pm)

Dear all,
 
I have been thinking of purchasing a hybrid car for a while but would like to get more information on how good hybrid would perform over long distance, freeway type of travel. I work relatively far from my house and travelled about 100Km to and back from work per day... However, my question is how will the hybrids handle constants 100Kph travel mostly? I know hybrids are designed to work very well in the cities... are they just as fuel efficient as they claimed to be? Please let me know... thank you.
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prius highway fuel economy by coalburner
May 17, 2006 (5:01 am)
at 100kph (62mph) my prius gets about 4.3 liters per 100km (55 mpg US)
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Re: prius highway fuel economy [coalburner] by godzillaismad
May 17, 2006 (3:08 pm)

Replying to: coalburner (May 17, 2006 5:01 am)

That's great to hear... I guess my worry is a bit on the paranoid side due to the fact that the engine is relatively small (1.3L for civic or 1.5L for prius)... just not too sure whether it would be a good idea to drive those hybrids long term in the freeway. Will the engine way wear much faster than it is designed to handle?
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Prius Vs '06 Civic by davhan
May 17, 2006 (4:19 pm)
The Prius is good highway and better in the city (stop start traffic). The '06 Civic (which I own) is good in the city traffic - typically 5.5 l/100klm, and only gets better on the highway, where you can control speed better. I haven't really had a chance to take it on a long drive yet. But once when I filled up next to the freeway, for the next 60k or so I was getting mid 4's. Hope that helps. Oh, and also, the civic is much nicer to drive and cheaper to buy...and it looks better inside and out.
 
So...for purely city driving the Prius is the go. For a mixture I preferred the Civic.
 
Happy driving
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Re: Prius Vs '06 Civic [davhan] by godzillaismad
May 17, 2006 (4:25 pm)

Replying to: davhan (May 17, 2006 4:19 pm)

Thanks for your info... I have to agree with you about Civic advantages have over Prius. However, the Civic hybrid does not have SatNav!? Well the one that's being sold in Australia anyway... Is SatNav important?
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Re: Prius Vs '06 Civic [godzillaismad] by davhan
May 18, 2006 (2:41 am)

Replying to: godzillaismad (May 17, 2006 4:25 pm)

OK...so from that comment you live in Australia too. Melbourne for me.
 
True, only the Prius comes with SatNav. I did actually buy one of those carry with you Satnav's by Navman and put it in the Civic...I'm a security salesman by trade, so I figured that it would come in handy. I had actually used one in Brisbane once, in a hire car. It was great there because the roads are all over the place. But I actually found the Navman at home in Melbourne more of a nusance. The Prius Satnav is a very expensive add on, and you'd really have to have a solid reason for buying it. It's a fun gadget...but that's about it. A bit like a covertable (of which I have had one). An expensive toy that in reality is not used that much.
 
My recommendation...don't bother with it. You'll enjoy the Civic much more. No...you wont get the absolute best MPG. But it will be a hell of a lot better than anything else. I consistently get 5.5 l/100klm and better driving from Frankston to Blackburn and back - absolute bumper to bumper traffic.
 
I really love the Civic. If you want to make an expensive statement buy the Prius, if you want to save money, look good, handle well and the pay back time here is about 2 years...less when we hi $2 a litre, buy the Civic.
 
The short answer is...NO Satnav is not important. It's just another gadget...thing that you have to deal with when driving. The Civic...for all it's efficiency and technical sophistication drives like a nice car...like you would expect a Honda to drive like.
 
Does that help?
 
David
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Re: prius highway fuel economy [godzillaismad] by stevedebi
May 18, 2006 (9:27 am)

Replying to: godzillaismad (May 17, 2006 3:08 pm)

"That's great to hear... I guess my worry is a bit on the paranoid side due to the fact that the engine is relatively small (1.3L for civic or 1.5L for prius)... just not too sure whether it would be a good idea to drive those hybrids long term in the freeway. Will the engine way wear much faster than it is designed to handle?"
 
I wouldn't worry about the Civic, at least. Honda has been making small engines that go a long ways for many years. The ICE Civic has a 1.7L engine, which is pretty small. But in any case Honda builds their engines to REV high and last long, provided the required maintenance is done.
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Re: prius highway fuel economy [stevedebi] by davhan
May 18, 2006 (3:01 pm)

Replying to: stevedebi (May 18, 2006 9:27 am)

The HCH 1.3l engine is no ordinary motor. Like all Honda's it has variable valve timing, but in 3 levels. The first is for maximum torque at low revs, the middle is for standard cruising and the top is for maximum power at high revs...all handled automatically of course. At freeway speeds (100kph) it sits at or below 2,000rpm - very low indeed for such a small motor. This is also a function of the CVT (Constantly Variable Transmission). So all in all the engine should last forever at highway speeds.

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