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Toyota Prius, Honda Insight, Honda Civic, Hybrid Cars
#299 of 336 Re: Pop Goes the Diesel!!! [midnightcowboy]
Feb 01, 2006 (10:04 am)
Do I have to teach you everything or do you think you can use Google to figure some of this out on your own rather then posting non-sense again and again and again?
Wayne R. Gerdes
#300 of 336 Re: Pop Goes the Diesel!!! [xcel]
Feb 01, 2006 (2:34 pm)
Cool Beans, No problem, teacher! If you don't know the answer, yes I can look it up on Google. By the way I don't think the word nonsense has a hyphen
Have a Good Day, cruis'n at FE better thna EPA ,
#301 of 336 Re: Toyota Priuses versus the City car [prelude2]
Feb 01, 2006 (5:43 pm)
Re: Who made the first Hybrid car? Obviously it was Honda in 1999 with the Insight!
Actually the Prius came out first and started selling as a 1997 model in Japan.
#302 of 336 Hybrid Purchase Prices
Feb 26, 2006 (2:27 pm)
Since there are waiting lists and dealer markups on both HCH and Prius, it is a seller's market. The more info buyers have about actual selling prices, the more power they have in negotiating with dealers. Let's use this thread to give buyers more power. How much did you pay for your hybrid? In order to compare apples to apples, be sure to use the "Cash Price Vehicle" cost. This is the bare bones price without accessories, or any other taxes/fees.
We bought a 2006 HCH w/o NAVI on 2/26/06 at Stevens Creek Honda, San Jose, CA, for $25,100.
#303 of 336 Re: Hybrid Purchase Prices [bleacherdave]
Feb 27, 2006 (9:02 am)
Even if that was an out the door price you paid way too much. You should have gotten an EX sedan. The difference in mileage savings on your $25,100 HCH would be realized unless you keep your car 10 years!
For only $6,000 more you could have gotten a S2000 ant invoice and had some real fun!
Keep on cruis'n ,
P.S.- I did the $6k more and I'm only getting about 23 mpg on premium. But with a short-shift 6-speed and a loud Invidia exhaust it is hard to drive for hyper-mileage
#304 of 336 Re: Toyota Priuses versus the City car [prelude2]
Mar 05, 2006 (11:08 pm)
Prelude2, most publications currently laud Toyota as the leaders in hybrid technology, and, like mk004 said, the Prius is the actual first mass-produced hybrid, having been sold since 1997. Also, the Prius CAN achieve, even surpass 60 mpg, so long as you drive more like one's grandmother than one's adolescent son. The mileage isn't propaganda-- companies are required by law to publish EPA mileage estimates; Toyota and Honda have acknowledged that the EPA estimates are misleading, but it's also not the manufacturer's fault that American consumers are so stupid and ignorant sometimes.
Oh, and I've seen countelss advertisements for Honda's hybrids (much more than for Toyota's hybrids).
#306 of 336 Re: Toyota Priuses versus the City car [butterfly0fdoo]
Mar 06, 2006 (8:31 am)
Read the lastest Consumer Reports article about the "The dollars & sense of hybrids".
Quoted: "In our analysis, none of the six hybrids we have tested recovered its price premium in the first five years and 75,000 miles of ownership (see Hybrids vs. all gas). Nor did any when the analysis was extended to 10 years and 150,000 miles. Rather, extra ownership costs over five years ranged from $3,700 to $13,300. "
Out of 6 hybirds they tested ,NONE were more cost effective after five years than their equvalent non-Hybrid models.
I find it humorous that the Prius no equivalent is equated to the Corolla.
Lucky I didn't buy a hydrid, becuase who in their right might lake's to drive like thier grandmother