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Ford Five Hundred/Mercury Montego

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What is this discussion about? Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Sedan

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#989 of 3623 by dave2222

Aug 04, 2004 (12:23 pm)

In regards to the Navigation System it'll proably come either in 2006 or 2007. The five hundred will be getting a exterior redesign to look more like the Ford 427 concept. The Ford fusion will be the first car to embody the 427 styling. The 3.5L will also be introduced next year as another engine option as well as different interior and exterior colors and other minor changes. The montego will get a different styling from the five hundred in 2008 to further the differences between Mercury and Ford. Both the Five hundred and montego were designed at relatively the same time in 1999 before the rebuilding of mercury project had started. The design had already been laid out etc.. so for 2008 the new designs they have been working on will finally be executed. Glad this clears up any misconceptions. If you have any questions feel free to ask.

#990 of 3623 by dave2222

Aug 04, 2004 (12:25 pm)

oh and if youre wondering what styling direction Mercury is going in look at the Mercury Messenger Concept.

#991 of 3623 Re: [dave2222] by mrmoose000

Aug 04, 2004 (12:35 pm)

Replying to: dave2222 (Aug 04, 2004 12:23 pm)
Who designed the 1999 Five-Hundred?
 
Who will be designing the exterior of the car?
 
Was it J. Mays? I have always like his work...is there any place that lists who designed what cars in the Ford line-up? Just so we can get some idea of design direction...

#992 of 3623 No no no by frasierdog

Aug 04, 2004 (12:38 pm)

ANT14 said:"I have yet to own/or know, the perfect vehicle...No matter how expensive"
 
Oh no you don't.
 
You have writen how Honda can get away with unlighted swithes because they are Honda.
 
There should be no wiggle room for Ford getting rid of a SAFETY feature on the basis of a picky owners argument. For $25k, put the $15 saftey lights back in.
 
I will give Ford all the credit for the design. But I am not all hyped up on new car fever to overlook a missing safety feature.

#993 of 3623 Re: [dave2222] by mrmoose000

Aug 04, 2004 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: dave2222 (Aug 04, 2004 12:23 pm)
Who designed the 1999 Five-Hundred?
 
Who will be designing the exterior of the car?
 
Was it J. Mays? I have always like his work...is there any place that lists who designed what cars in the Ford line-up? Just so we can get some idea of design direction...
 
What do we know about the car that fits in between the Fusion and F-H? (The real Taurus*RIP* replacement...)

#994 of 3623 by ANT14

Aug 04, 2004 (12:53 pm)

You mean Cougar ? Heh....
 
I agree, there's some items here and there that WOULD be appreciated, but in this time of cost cutting by ALL manufacturer's, there's certain things you will lose, not know you missed, etc.
 
And I do mean ALL...I've seen some recent example of Toyota headliner's, which are subpar to even anything GM might have. Corolla's carpeting is simply felt. Honda has yet to light all their window switches/accessory switched and relocate their power window switched to the overhead console, (their current location behind the steering wheel dashboard, is the cheap method).
 
Some of the door panels and such some are critisizing, are using materials that are above the Accord/Camry standards, just wanted to share that. But that will be overlooked since some prefer a bit more flair on them and will simply focus on what's missing.
 
Steering wheel buttons, lighted. Ask Honda and Toyota why don't they light up more of their switched. Rear parking assist, most do not have that on sedans. Mercury will have heated/cooled seats, something rare under in sedans in this price class.
 
Trunk, 21Cu.ft. enough to stuff a few dead bodies, ask Toy/Honda why they can only fit one/2 (if you brake/bend some limbs). Again, no vehicle is perfect, all will depend what your needs are. Are you willing to give up a lighted glovebox for cooled seats, or Navi system for a huge trunk? It's the whole package that needs to be considered.

#995 of 3623 Re: [mrmoose000] by badgerfan

Aug 04, 2004 (1:05 pm)

Replying to: mrmoose000 (Aug 04, 2004 12:45 pm)
The 500 is a 2005 model, not a 1999. I believe the guy who came over to Ford from VW/Audi (Jay Mays?) had a lot of influence. You can certainly see VW/Audi influence in the car's styling.
 
I may be wrong, but there really isn't enough room to squeeze a car between Fusion and 500. That was the problem with Contour, it was too close in size and room to the Focus and had too little price differential from Taurus. My bet is that when the Fusion arrives, it will be near in interior space and trunk space to the current Taurus, though will be a bit shorter, similar to Camry and Accord in overall length.
 
Three model sizes of sedan style automobile generally covers the market, unless you want to throw in a minicompact, which historically is hard to make money on and does not command a big market share in the US. Just look at the miniscule sales Toyota is having with the Echo.

#996 of 3623 mrmoose000, by buckwheat

Aug 04, 2004 (1:19 pm)

If your a J. Mays fan read the following it will answer some of your questions, I posted much of this many months back;
 
http://waw.wardsauto.com/magazinearticle.asp?magazinearticleid=19- - 3567&magazineid=50&siteID=26&releaseid=12046&mode- - =print

#997 of 3623 by ANT14

Aug 04, 2004 (1:56 pm)

Yes the 500 idea came during the Jac Nasser era, I believe I covered this quite a bit back. Originally under Jac's supervision he wanted to use the P2 platform, to stem a vehicle to replace the Taurus. Problem was, that during development, the realization that Ford would be losing money on it, if it surplanted the Taurus. Hence, it was pushed upmarket. And eloquently billed as a large Mid-size sedan, not to overthrow the Crown Vic for the title of Large sedan.
 
The Fusion will certainly replace the Taurus, it's interior dimensions are large where it counts...Same as with the Focus and 500. While the exterior length will be kept minimal (under 195in.) The Taurus' architecture doesn't make the best use of interior porportion, contrary to it's exterior dimensions. The Fusion will certainly adopt an interior architecture that will make the most of it's dimensions, just as the Focus did, and the 500 will.

#998 of 3623 Re: [ANT14] by nvbanker

Aug 04, 2004 (4:52 pm)

Replying to: ANT14 (Aug 04, 2004 11:43 am)
" have yet to own/or know, the perfect vehicle..."
 
Actually, and for argument's sake, I have owned the 'perfect' car several times. Cars I would label as 'perfect' for my needs, and 'perfect'
at the time were:
 
74 Mustang II (I know, I know, but it was new).
84 Thunderbird
86 Taurus LX
88 Oldsmobile Delta 88
92 Lincoln Continental (ended up not so perfect)
99 Lincoln Navigator
 
And frankly, I'd consider my 03 Navigator perfect also. Perfection in a machine of transportation, is pretty subjective, IMO. This truck meets or exceeds every expectation and need I have of it. That's perfection to me.
 
Go ahead, flame me, I dare ya!!

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