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Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Sedan
#944 of 3623 The 500s acceleration under 8 seconds?
Jul 31, 2004 (8:22 am)
I dont believe it. I think under 9 seconds is a question mark, let alone under 8 seconds. The most recent issue of Business Week states of the Five Hundred, Freestyle, and Montego:
Page 34 Aug 9 2004
"..the cars, based on the chassis made by partner Volvo, gets high marks for smooth handling, comfortable ride, and roomy, easily reconfigured interiors. Yet their heavy weight makes them feel sluggish, say those who have driven the cars. Ford takes issue with the characterization. 'We deliver better acceleration, better fuel economy, and half the emissions of some of our competitors, says a company spokesman'"
Those competitors are probably the Kia Amanti (terrible fuel consumption and an 8.9 second run to 60), and the Chrysler 300 2.7, (slightly better economy than Amanti, but even slower, at 9.5+ seconds to 60).
For has a problem, in my opinion, in that the Avalon is going to be redesigned by Spring of 2005, and the 300 offers something truly different. GMs full size cars will also be redesigned in the next 1.5 calendar years.
Jul 31, 2004 (10:21 am)
Transmissions will help make up for the low horsepower. We've discussed this in the past.
Jul 31, 2004 (10:58 am)
"help" being the operative word. The six speed and CVT are not going to fully compensate for the pronouced mismatch between weight and hp, or weight and torque. I will be the first to admit Im wrong, but even with the advanced transmissions, I cant imagine these cars will feel strong or post class-average (8 flat, say, to 60) times.
Jul 31, 2004 (11:14 am)
According to typical calculations (transmission gearing not taken into account) these vehicles would be doing 11 seconds. Obviously that wouldn't be the case. The vehicles are quite quick overall considering just having 203HP. It surely won't be anything in the 9's range.
Jul 31, 2004 (11:27 am)
The Five Hundred's success will be based upon its amazingly roomy interior and the strength of Ford's dealer network, not its acceleration.
However, in future years, Ford is probably going to have to do some de-contenting to make the Five Hundred competitive with the base Impala in price. I can't see very many people being interested in paying over $25,000 for a Five Hundred.
Aug 01, 2004 (5:39 pm)
Yeah, I read something awhile ago indicating that the initial planning for the Five Hundred and Montego was done during the Jac Nasser era, when Ford was having delusions of grandeur. I think that's why the cars are so well-equipped (and, presumably, pricey). I wouldn't be surprised if we see a cheaper model in a year or two. Considering that you can pick up a base Impala for around $18K with all the discounts, I don't think it's really in the same league as the Five Hundred as it currently exists. I would expect to see starting MSRP in the $23K range for the Five Hundred...I know the Impala starts around there too, but its MSRP is a bad joke, whereas I expect that Ford will not substantially discount the Five Hundred. At any rate, it will be interesting to see what happens.
#953 of 3623 Re: [a_l_hubcaps]
Aug 01, 2004 (5:43 pm)
They will discount them if they need to discount them. We will see how they turn out and how the public reacts to the MSRP.