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#3578 of 3617 2007 or 2008? by pegasus17 Feb 11, 2007 (5:03 pm)
OK, this month you can get about $6000 off MSRP with the combo of incentives on the 500/Montego. Or you can wait til summer and pay approx. sticker for a 2008. What am i losing out on by buying now? I know about the engine but what about the tranny and the AWD. Is giving up the CVT and the Haldex AWD for the new unproven 3.5 a good tradeoff? Replies to this message: jaxs1 (Feb 11, 2007 8:53 pm)
#3579 of 3617 Re: 2007 or 2008? [coppamc] by jaxs1 Feb 11, 2007 (8:53 pm)
Replying to: pegasus17 (Feb 11, 2007 5:03 pm) There will be much less incentives and discounts available for the 2008s, but there is no way they will be going for sticker or even close. Too many other choices available for that to happen to the still boring 2008 Taurus.
#3580 of 3617 The NEW 3.5! Drove it! Wrote a song about it! Want to hear it? Here it go! by slider7 Feb 12, 2007 (7:05 pm)
Drove both an Edge and the Lincoln version MKX Sunday with the new 3.5 and tranny. I cannot "feel" any noticeable difference from my 3.0 500 unless I really press the pedal to the floor and want to get no more than 250 miles to the tankful. No discernible difference in any respect to what there already is! So you want to pay $3000 for a home stereo with .001 total harmonic distortion instead of $300 for the one with .01 THD because the sine-wave can tell when your ears can't? And if you don't have 20/20 vision, why waste money on HDTV??? Why wait and waste for a 3.5/6f when you can save thousands by getting the Porsche designed Duratec 3.0 4V V-6 with Toyota 6 speed transmission on a Volvo platform and Pirelli Tires??? Uhh huhhh! Thank you very much. Replies to this message: pegasus17 (Feb 13, 2007 11:28 am) micweb (Feb 22, 2007 4:17 pm) pegasus17 (Feb 22, 2007 4:10 pm) and 1 more... walterquint (Jul 22, 2007 3:50 pm) chuck1 (Jul 22, 2007 4:59 pm) jaxs1 (Jul 22, 2007 5:03 pm) chuck1 (Jul 22, 2007 5:21 pm) and 1 more... gregg_vw (Jul 23, 2007 4:02 am) pnewby (Jul 23, 2007 6:54 am) and 1 more...
#3581 of 3617 Re: The NEW 3.5! Drove it! Wrote a song about it! Want to hear it? Here it by pegasus17 Feb 13, 2007 (11:28 am)
Replying to: slider7 (Feb 12, 2007 7:05 pm) Thanks for your oh-so-objective opinion. I do find it a bit hard-to-believe but i will do my own evaluation. FWIW, i was appalled to see Korean-made Hankook tires on the new Edge. Guess cost-cutting measures have reached a new low at FMC. Replies to this message: micweb (Feb 22, 2007 4:17 pm) pegasus17 (Feb 22, 2007 4:10 pm) chuck1 (Feb 22, 2007 5:51 pm)
#3582 of 3617 Re: The NEW 3.5! Drove it! Wrote a song about it! Want to hear it? Here it [coppamc] by micweb Feb 22, 2007 (4:17 pm)
Replying to: pegasus17 (Feb 13, 2007 11:28 am) I am semi-appalled. But keep in mind Consumer Reports has been giving some Hankook tires top marks...so maybe FMC is just ahead of the curve. I think it's bad PR though, most people will just assume "cheap." Replies to this message: pegasus17 (Feb 22, 2007 4:10 pm) chuck1 (Feb 22, 2007 5:51 pm)
#3583 of 3617 Re: Hankook tires on the New Ford Edge by pegasus17 Feb 22, 2007 (4:10 pm)
Replying to: micweb (Feb 22, 2007 4:17 pm) I am not slamming Hankook tires - they may be wonderful. I am slamming Ford for their "Buy American" commercials and then they put Korean tires on their new crossover vehicle. It is a matter of principle, not cost-cutting. FWIW, I am still a bit surprised that few people seem to care that the Fusion/Milan cars are made in Mexico. Initial quality has been good so perhaps American auto workers just plain suck (unless they work for Toyota, Honda or Nissan). Maybe it's just union people that suck (all the way to the bank). Replies to this message: chuck1 (Feb 22, 2007 5:51 pm)
#3584 of 3617 Re: Hankook tires on the New Ford Edge [coppamc] by chuck1 Feb 22, 2007 (5:51 pm)
Replying to: pegasus17 (Feb 22, 2007 4:10 pm) This is what drove me away from Ford. Design a great car/truck and the parts go out to the cheapest bidder. There isn't any rationale reason other than cost to put those Hankook tires on. They are not a great tire overall.
#3585 of 3617 Hankook Tires by donl1 Feb 22, 2007 (7:07 pm)
When I was looking at an Edge last week I saw a new F150 Super Cab with Hankooks on it...so it's not just the Edge they are trying to save a nickel on. And I passed on the Edge.
#3586 of 3617 new engine by walterquint Feb 23, 2007 (4:36 am)
The new 3.5L likely performs similarly to the 3.0L, when used conservatively. However, add passengers, cargo, and some long hills and it's a different story.........that's always been the major gripe with the 3.0L. It performs decently in a testing environment (single passenger, controlled environment), but real-world performance is lackluster. Let the rental fleets have the 3.0L. I'd personally wait for the new mill.
#3587 of 3617 Ford Dropped Edge 60 Month to 2.9% From 4.9% by slider7 Feb 23, 2007 (9:11 pm)
If it goes 0.0, save $2000+ then put a thousand dollar set of rubbers on it! Locally I have not seen a 500 for sale in our newspaper since I began keeping track last Feb. Where it lacks in performance, is more than make up in reliability. 8000 miles, one oil change. The lack of available resale inventory excluding lease turn-ins and rental car liquidations, tells me I'm not the only one who realizes that Ford messed up! Somebody fooled around and forgot to install the "built-in obsolescence package" on the 06,07's.

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