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Re: A: [ANT14] by savetheland
Jan 21, 2007 (5:59 pm)
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Replying to: ANT14 (Jan 16, 2007 8:06 pm)

Interestingly enough climate controls in Edge feel more substantial and made from better material than in 500 or Fusion even though design is the same. Why not replace ACC in 500/Fusion with new one from Edge? And there is new a center stack seen in Mariner/Focus. I did not touch it so cannot say how good it is.
 
As for gauges – I personally do not like how it is done in Camry/Lexus – too garish and bright for my taste and I do not want gauges to be too big and glare during day. I like more understated design of Lincoln/Mercury/Ford. I do not know is upcoming ice-blue gauges in Fords are good or bad. I certainly do not like it in Acura. Green color is okay, may be red for performance brand like Mazda/Pontiac. Green gauges in Skoda Octavia are beautiful, but red in Golf may be too irritating. And as Ant correctly pointed out VW interior may look nice but after couple of years look pretty worn out and there is a smell also. I like Ford interiors for their sturdiness and common sence.
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Re: A: [ANT14] by gregg_vw
Jan 25, 2007 (10:19 am)
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Replying to: ANT14 (Jan 16, 2007 8:06 pm)

That may be some people's experience with VW, but not mine. Both my Golf and Passat interior parts and surfaces have held up superbly over the years, and both interiors still look better than most anything Ford is putting out now, years and years later. And that is a shame. I suspect though that Ford has now gotten the message and is dancing as fast as it can to make those important peerceptual changes.
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Re: A: [gregg_vw] by savetheland
Jan 25, 2007 (4:57 pm)
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Replying to: gregg_vw (Jan 25, 2007 10:19 am)

Regardless of quality of materials modern Ford interiors do not look as stylish as interiors from Honda, Toyota and GM. Somehow they manage it look down-market.
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New Montego by savetheland
Jan 25, 2007 (4:58 pm)
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Tak a look:
 
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline?14.ee7d88b
 
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Re: New Montego [savetheland] by jaxs1
Jan 25, 2007 (6:13 pm)
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Replying to: savetheland (Jan 25, 2007 4:58 pm)

???
 
Why even try to hide and camouflage the Montego at this point when the Five Hundred has official photos all over.
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Re: New Montego [jaxs1] by savetheland
Jan 25, 2007 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: jaxs1 (Jan 25, 2007 6:13 pm)

Front looks like MIlan though. I think it looks better than updated 500.
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Re: What advantage do Optitron guages have? [frizz2112] by heyjewel
Jan 25, 2007 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: frizz2112 (Jan 19, 2007 1:32 pm)

"I think there's a really good car somewhere in there. The 500 is well built, now has a competitive engine, has amazing rear seat and trunk room, is very safe, etc. But I think by missing the styling boat Ford coughed up a bunch of sales"
 
Oh man did u hit it here. The 500/ Montego are so boring one could fall asleep looking at them. Such a shame because like you say they have the potential to be great sellers now that they FINALLY have the engines and drivetrain they needed all along. And the "redesign" is geez its practically a joke. They took the grilles from their little cars that are selling better and put them on the big cars that are DOA and now people are going to buy the big ones too? I for one doubt it very much. If they sell 3 more 500s this year it'll be becasue of the 3.5 L, not the 3 bar grille.
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Re: What advantage do Optitron guages have? [frizz2112] by heyjewel
Jan 25, 2007 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: frizz2112 (Jan 19, 2007 1:32 pm)

"With so much ground to make up in consumer perception (even though we know Ford's latest efforts have matched the Japanese on quality) "
 
Dont know what you're talking about here though. Reliability after one year does not mean much. The things are under warrantee for 3 or 4 years. THAT's when reliability begins to matter. You cant say anything about Fusion/500 reliability compared to Japanese for another 3 years at least, IMHO.
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Re: What advantage do Optitron guages have? [heyjewel] by mschmal
Jan 26, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: heyjewel (Jan 25, 2007 8:42 pm)

Hope you don't have one of the 500,000+ Toyota trucks that just got recalled.
 
BTW, check out the annual auto iss of Consumer Reports. The Camry 4 cylinder was WORESE THAN AVERAGE for reliability while the FUSION WAS ABOVE AVERAGE!
 
Why is it so hard to believe that Ford could build a quality car? Its almost like you people are HOPING it will prove to be unreliable.
 
Mark.
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Re: What advantage do Optitron guages have? [mschmal] by gregg_vw
Jan 26, 2007 (2:47 pm)
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Replying to: mschmal (Jan 26, 2007 11:57 am)

Well, I'm not one of them. I'm just realistic. Why did it take such a long and hard fall for this formerly powerful company to get a clue? For the Fusion to make big inroads on the Camry bandwagon, it would almost take a miracle now. It sits in the showroom next to and between two of the most mediocre designs out there (Focus and 500). The 2008 tweaks of these two won't change that mediocrity much.
 
Yes, Fusion is quality, but this company still needs incentives to move them in big numbers. There's a long history of missteps that cannot be blamed on disgruntled people like me. And when I see the Saturn Aura and 2008 Malibu and 2008 CTS, I wonder why Ford thinks the Fusion is so bold. It's a darn nice car, but in a field where there are a lot of darn nice cars. What is needed are some bold moves.

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