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Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Sedan
#3512 of 3623 2008 Five Hundred From a 2006 Owner
Jan 09, 2007 (8:10 pm)
If you do away with all of the attention-deficit gizmo's that distract you from the reality you're really buying, the 2008 will be faster and perhaps smoother in the tranny/engine dept. The candy-striped rear tail lights look silly. The new rear wheels don't appear to have the wider visual stance that the current Limited design has. The front end looks like a cross between the 80's L T D stationwagon/Ford Topaz meets HID. The front looks high and econobox instead of low and sophisticated, and squarish for a rounded/circular body/wheelwell shape and kinda reminiscent of the 87 88 89 Escort GT. The rear valance has a cutout for two little exhaust pipes not even centered within, on the left side. The only interior that looks sporty and rich is the all black leather option. The pebble, gray, or two tone looks cheap and plasticky. The new albino instrument cluster lacks contrast and the tiny plastic accents on top of the steering wheel and shifter won't impress the Cadillac folks out on the road. The original Five Hundred that was put down, kicked, and laughed at by critics has remodeled itself into more muscles, skin-deep chrome flash, lots of mental jewelry, and multiple personality disorder to boot. I recommend you run out and grab that 2006-2007 black, red, blue, white or merlot Five Hundred Limited with moonroof and black leather. I just hope you can still get 0.0 and $1000 cash in your pocket before the dealers find out. Mine has 6690 miles and only one synthetic oil change from Jiffy Lube at 3148 miles. I won't drop it off at some dealer and risk secret remapping of the onboard computers in order to cause "service engine" lights or other "mechanic engineered" troubles under factory warranty. Happy New Year!
#3513 of 3623 When do the aliens land?
Jan 10, 2007 (4:39 am)
#3514 of 3623 Re: 6 speed vs. CVT [mschmal]
Jan 10, 2007 (5:29 pm)
After driving the new Edge, the 6 speed is unbelieveablely smooth. Almost CVT smooth. And you don't have to pay for a fluid change every 60k
Hard to believe it can be as smooth as a CVT.
How often DO you have to change the transmission fluid? I can't imagine going more than 60k miles. I can't imagine even going THAT long, really.
Jan 11, 2007 (8:18 am)
when will the 08's be available for a test drive?will it be that much better than the 07's?
Jan 15, 2007 (7:06 pm)
I hate to criticize, but this time I am getting really upset. What's up with that boring dated interior Ford is already using for the last couple of years? Both, the stereo system and temperature controls, needs to be drastically revised. Can't they just copy their own upcoming Focus?
Looking over the photos of the auto show, I couldn't help but thinking that maybe the critics are right? Just look at the Hyundai Veracruz, and see the interior. It's a pleasure to look at! And so are other vehicles.
It's time to wake up, Ford!
#3517 of 3623 Re: Interior [samnoe]
Jan 16, 2007 (12:47 pm)
I have to agree. It's not just the 500 either; Ford is getting left behind in interior design and quality of materials all over the place. I just had the chance to see a Saturn Outlook interior (Saturn!), and I was stunned at the quality of design and materials; far and away better than the Edge. Ford supposedly tripled their investment in interior designs a while back, but other then the F-150 and maybe the new Expedition, they seem behind in every segment interior design-wise. I've heard excuses that those investments won't take hold right away for about 5 years now. I've also heard rumors that Ford is stuck in some contracts with sub standard suppliers, but whatever the reason, the current crop of Ford interiors isn't cutting it. I had a '98 VW Passat and the interior on that car is still better than any car Ford has out right now. It's too bad, because GM has woken up on interior design, and their new offerings have improved unbelievably in that regard.
And please, let's not go off on the tangent of "who cares about the quality of materials?" If you don't that's great, but I assure you most people do. Just as an example, I have a sister in law who was dead set on the Freestyle, until she actually sat in one. She said "it just felt cheap and cheesy." Now she's looking at a Subaru Tribecca, mainly because it "looks so luxurious inside." Who would have thought a few years back that Ford would be losing sales to the Korean makes, Saturn, Subaru and others, because of the quality of their interiors?
Jan 16, 2007 (4:04 pm)
The Edge interior looks better in person than in photos. Ford is moving away from the "brick" style interiors. Check out the new Escape and the new Focus.
The MKX and MKZ have great looking interiors with real wood. The Fusion interior is very nice as well.
(If i had to choose between a Top of Dash display and a storage compartment as in the Fusion, I would rather have the storage.)
Jan 16, 2007 (8:06 pm)
Let's take note, we are comparing a vehicle that was imagined in 2001, using 1990's/2000 administration decisions/mindset, to debut in 2004 as a 2005, and we are comparing it to a 2008 vehicle?
IN this regard, every vehicle being introduced each and every year will start to outdo one another, as they are redesigned. And it's very unlikely that a manufacturer will improve certain materials on the 2-3 year refresh cycle.
Suppliers build to spec that the manufacturer has, and within all that legalities the only leverage they might have is IF a vehicle is released, and people critic materials for example, the contract might NOT allow for a change till it's renewed 4-5 years after, unless a hefty penalty is paid. Those are the little things that can slow things up.
Also, VW/Audi are known for having some of the best interior materials in the industry. They actually are rated as having the highest "Perceived quality" index, but reality is, it's one of the most unreliable brands out there.
Having known 12 friends that HAD (and will never own) another VW, I can tell you how well (or lack thereof) those materials held up 4-5 years after the fact. The rubbery door interior grab handles which fade. The door surround felt trim pieces that sags. Airbag cover corners starting to lift. Cupholders that broke earlier on. Footwell panels that won't clip into place correctly and pop out with slight kick. Turn signal stalk which looses it's texture and fades. Headliner starting to drop.
And my personal favorite "The A/C doesn't smell mildewy Sir, it's just the outside air", next to the "I dont understand why you think the Jettas interior smell like burnt crayons, they smell perfectly fine to us".
But anyhow, moving on...that is a sore topic for me being I was USED each time they needed my help at the dealership ever other week.
#3520 of 3623 Re: Interior [frizz2112]
Jan 17, 2007 (5:22 am)
On another note, beauty(and quality) is in the eye of the beholder.
In my case, an in-law called recently to ask what my Freestyle was, she had looked at similar cars recently, and couldn't find any she thought were even close to the interior of my '05LTD. And her family isn't Ford oriented.
#3521 of 3623 Thing I would change about Ford interiors.
Jan 17, 2007 (8:16 am)
I wonder if Ford ever looked into applying a soft rubber to the switch surfaces similar to what is used on the soft grip pens.
I just don't think that symbols printed on this type of material would resist fading.