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Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Sedan
#3478 of 3623 2008 Revision Information - ANT14, others????
Sep 23, 2006 (8:41 pm)
Although I have an Edge on order, I really would prefer a sedan, preferably one with an elevated seating position, and the cargo space of the Five Hundred and Montego is even better for my needs that that in a CUV / SUV. The combination of no telescoping steering wheel and the over-sized boxy console makes it impossible for me to sit comfortably in the current versions, the current interior is cheaply finished, and the current engine and CVT are far too noisy.
We all know that the 2008 models coming out in early 2007 will be shown at the Detroit show, and will have the new 3.5 V6 and GM-Ford 6-speed automatic, and will have enhanced front and rear exterior styling. What about the interior? Bill Ford has mentioned something about a revised interior, but why haven't any photos been taken of the new interior, if there is one?
In fact, why is Ford waiting? All of the vehicles which might compete with the Five Hundred are already on the market, or are so close to being on sale that photos and detailed specifications have been published. The only exception is the next Accord, although plenty of people would dispute that it and the Five Hundred / Montego compete. Therefore, what has Ford got to loose by ending the secrecy about the revised Five Hundred and Montego?
The sales of the current models will not decrease, but Ford stands a good chance of causing people to delay purchases of vehicles if they have all of the information on the revised Five Hundred and Montego. Why not release photos, specifications, and show the new versions in Anaheim? If they are not finished by now, Ford is in far greater trouble than any of us imagined.
Sep 24, 2006 (7:44 pm)
No one has gotten close enough to take interior pictures of the mules.
#3480 of 3623 Re: FSM [ANT14]
Sep 25, 2006 (7:55 am)
And likely no one has cared enough to make the effort. (I'm not knocking its obvious good qualities, but even with the new front end, there are few cars on the road that are as anonymous as this one.)
#3481 of 3623 Re: FSM [gregg_vw]
Oct 09, 2006 (7:33 am)
I have recently heard that the 2008 model will indeed have a new instrument panel (I sure hope that also means a new console), and that the Limited will also have a feature which some Cadillacs have....
It will depend on the dealerships - if they order and promote the cars with the new styling / features and the new engine and transmission, they should finally sell very well.
#3482 of 3623 2008 design refresh
Dec 21, 2006 (1:05 pm)
Here's a couple of shots of a 2008 500 test mule:
I was sort of hoping against logic that they'd do more than the usual Ford front and rear fascia band aids, but it looks like the 500 will remain a wall flower for now. Let's hope they take care of business with the interior.
The new 3.5 should be a nice addition though.
#3483 of 3623 Re: 2008 design refresh [frizz2112]
Dec 21, 2006 (2:52 pm)
Big whoop. Like that's going to tear up the sales charts now. BTW, these are the first posts since October.
Dec 21, 2006 (9:51 pm)
Put a diesel in it and it will be on my list. Nice car, but lousy mileage, the 3.5L will make it a bigger looser. Put a 2.2L - 3.0L diesel in this car and you might have something.
#3485 of 3623 Re: Diesel [jkinzel]
Dec 22, 2006 (7:13 am)
Lousy mileage? What are you basing this on? My father has a 500 AWD/ CVT and he's routinely getting into the high 20's on the highway. That's pretty darned good for a vehicle this size.
I agree about the diesel option though, and in more Ford vehicles than just the 500.
#3486 of 3623 Re: Diesel [frizz2112]
Dec 22, 2006 (8:11 am)
Itís not bad mileage, however, (without getting on the soap box) when one considers all the environmental and political issues in todayís world, we (consumers, corporations and the Government) need to get more mileage out of a barrel of crude.
I agree, the 500 with the 3.0L getting 29mpg highway is not bad, but, with a diesel getting 35 to 42mpg would be great.
#3487 of 3623 Re: Diesel [jkinzel]
Dec 22, 2006 (11:29 am)
Out of a barrel of crude one gets twice as much gas as Diesel. However, Diesel cars mileage is just about 30% to 50% better, which means that in the end more barrels of crude would have to be mined.
This is no surprise, as Europe is experiencing this very issue, having to export gas cheaply to the US and importing huge amounts of refined Diesel fuel to keep 30% of its car fleet running.
Not to mention the cost to clean the Diesel engine exhaust to American standards (Diesel engines are allowed to pollute more than gas engines in Europe) and the poor NVH relative to gas engines, even in modern Diesel engines.