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You are in the Ford Five Hundred/Mercury Montego
What is this discussion about?
Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Sedan
Dec 06, 2005 (3:02 pm)
"What's up with THAT? Isn't it more important to get that engine available as an option in the Five Hundred/Montego, which the media has had a field day calling underpowered?"
True, I see your point, but the first vehicle to debut the engine will be the Lincoln Aviator, so being it's on the same assembly line, it's not much of an issue to dump it into the Edge or any other CD3 derived equivilant.
As for the F/M/Z, they get it next mainly because of the AWD option, and new JV FMC/GM 6 speed automatic. It's easier to just combine those three components, and just dump them into those vehicles.
If the 500 were to receive the 3.5L first, then A) the transmission isn't ready for Ford just yet B) the existing AWD would require beefing up C )Not many would know that such items have been introduced unless they see a new face. New face when? Next remodel period which is 2007, as a 2008 vehicle. In other words, your looking at 14-18 months from now.
After those vehicles, then you'll see the engine surplanting various other engines families, as newly redesigned vehicles are being introduced... As is, when the Freestar/Monterey minivans are replaced, the engines in it will also be killed 3.9L/4.2L. Next "people mover" will use the new V6's and V8's.
Let's not forget, these factories manufacturing these components require time to tool up, build, and slowly phase them into vehicles as they ramp up. And the same will occur when certain engines are killed. Can't yank all 3.9L/4.2L in a months time, rather slowly kill them off as new vehicles are redesigned to accept the newer ones.
Dec 06, 2005 (11:20 pm)
ANT14, did you just tell us that new V8s on on the way? Maybe based on the new V6 design (probably meaning a 60 degree angle between banks)? Is Ford going to have new V6, V8 (and maybe even 4 cylinder engines) which really are the same design?
Unfortunately, I see your point that if the car does not look different, many dealers and buyers will never be able to focus on the improvements.
#2963 of 3623 Re: John [ANT14]
Dec 07, 2005 (9:08 pm)
Every thing you say about the engines is correct, the only thing this whole change over should have occurred about 5 years ago. 3.8L/3.9L/4.2L Essex engines should have been killed about 10 years ago. This way we could all enjoy driving cars with powerful engines instead of waiting for another 18 months.
Dec 07, 2005 (10:03 pm)
New V8 meaning, the Volvo's Yamaha 4.4L, which will first be used in a few Lincolns. And the Triton 4.6L, doesn't necessarily need to stay at 4.6L either...
Originally yes, the plan was the phase in the 3.5L a few years ago. Even the Lincoln LS was to receive the new 3.5L as well, but because other fires needed to be put out, that got pushed back. The positive thing is that in the process of being introduced a bit later, it gained VVT, and various other components.
#2965 of 3623 Comfort
Dec 09, 2005 (7:53 pm)
I'm looking at buying a new '05 SE FWD as I was able to get a pretty good deal on it. I have not road tested it yet, but for those of you who own one, how is the ride comfort? Firm, soft, in the middle?
Dec 09, 2005 (10:33 pm)
"Firm, soft, in the middle? "
Somewhere between soft and in the middle.
Smoother than a Taurus, not as soft as a Town Car.
#2967 of 3623 Re: Comfort [cv2]
Dec 09, 2005 (10:39 pm)
Strange. Are you not planning on driving it yourself before you buy it?
You're buying it based soley on the price?
#2968 of 3623 Re: Comfort [cv2]
Dec 10, 2005 (7:32 am)
Check to see if it is a CVT or 6 speed car.
Also, this is one of the Safety cars you can buy according to IIHS.
Dec 10, 2005 (12:03 pm)
Has anyone had the fuel strap recall done yet? Should we feel safe until then?
#2970 of 3623 Re: fuel straps [bruneau1]
Dec 10, 2005 (12:13 pm)
I haven't had it done yet (though I got the recall notice last week).
As I recall, the possible failure of the straps was something that isn't supposed to happen for quite a few miles?