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#2685 of 3623 Re: Five Hundred Limited - Test Drive [gmctruck]
by fsmmcsi
Jun 27, 2005 (10:34 pm)
Gmctruck - The very first time I sat in a Five Hundred, I tried to pull the steering wheel out. After sitting in and driving many of them, I finally gave up on them (Five Hundred, Montego, Freestyle) just because of the problem of obtaining a good seating position and the excessive noise from the drivetrain. I would like to have the better fuel mileage of the Freestyle, but have a 2006 Explorer on order. It would be a real surprise if Ford does not offer a telescoping steering column in 2007. The power pedals do not help, as they are more for short drivers, not tall drivers. I also visited a Ford dealer which offered to allow me to take a Freestyle for a long / overnight test drive.
Jun 28, 2005 (3:37 am)
It is interesting to note that the Fusion/Milan, a smaller midsize to come from Ford this fall, DOES have a telescoping/tilt wheel....
Perhaps Ford has learned a lesson and will indeed include it in the next reskin for the Five Hundred/Montego...
#2687 of 3623 Re: Five Hundred Limited - Test Drive [gmctruck]
by badgerfan
Jun 28, 2005 (6:23 am)
Come on over to Ford, they won't bite! I did in 1990 switching off from GM sedans and haven't gone back. GM just turned me off when my 1983 Chevy Celebrity had the same bugs that GM didn't fix from Citation of four years earlier which shared much of the same drive train, suspension and brakes, which I had hoped GM would have improved, but they did not.
Seriously I know GM's quality has made leaps and bounds, just like all the domestics, but I have not had a good reason to go back from Ford for mainstream family sedans.
#2688 of 3623 Thank Mazda for the telescoping wheel in the Fusion
by mschmal
Jun 28, 2005 (9:21 am)
Mazda6 has a telescoping wheel, Ford probably found it cheaper to keep than to decontent.
also ALL FWD Five Hundreds come with the Aisin 6 speed.
ALL AWD Five Hundreds come with the ZF/Ford CVT
Mark
#2689 of 3623 Re: Thank Mazda for the telescoping wheel in the Fusion [mschmal]
by badgerfan
Jun 28, 2005 (9:34 am)
That is not true, at least in the early production runs. I have checked inventory on line of local dealers and they have FWD versions with the CVT. Ford may have changed the mix due to availability issues of the CVT, but CVT front wheel only Five Hundreds are on some dealer lots.
It is true however that all AWD versions have the CVT exclusively.
#2690 of 3623 Re: Five Hundred Limited - Test Drive [gmctruck]
by micweb
Jun 28, 2005 (10:47 am)
If you get around to test driving a Dodge Charger with the 3.5, the same engine in the Dodge Magnum or the Chrysler 300, I'd be interested in your impressions.
#2691 of 3623 Re: Thank Mazda for the telescoping wheel in the Fusion [badgerfan]
by johnclineii
Jun 28, 2005 (2:58 pm)
Originally, the FWD SEL and Limited came with the 6 speed, while the FWD SE and all AWD's came with the CVT. I later heard that all FWD SE's were switched to the 6 speed, yet after that still saw newly produced FWD SE's come onto the lots with the CVT. Confused yet?
The ONE thing I DO know is that there are indeed Limiteds built with either transmission..but in all the Limiteds, the CVTs are in the AWD and the 6 speeds in the FWD...
#2692 of 3623 Re: Five Hundred Limited - Test Drive [micweb]
by gmctruck
Jun 28, 2005 (4:21 pm)
Well now... it's funny that you mentioned that! I did stop by our local Dodge dealer to ask about the charger. The dealer had sold the only one they had, but three more are on the way and will be in next week. I was promised a phone call when they hit the ground, so we'll see next week.
#2693 of 3623 Re: Thank Mazda for the telescoping wheel in the Fusion [mschmal]
by rjj60
Jun 28, 2005 (5:22 pm)
Not true. Five Hundred FWD SE has CVT, the only FWD Five Hundred to have this. All other levels of FWD have 6-speed. ALL AWD models have CVT.
Jun 28, 2005 (6:12 pm)
Newly built FWD SE's are now available with the 6 speed.... I know, I saw one today! Right beside it was another SE with a CVT. All other FWD models (SEL and Limited) have only the six speed. Originally, you could only get the FWD SE with a CVT....
As you can see here, the FWD SE now is built with the 6 speed:
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/ford/fivehundred/100396387/prices.html
BUT, click on options, and a CVT is a $0 option!!!!
Haven't we about beat this horse to death?