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You are in the Ford Five Hundred/Mercury Montego
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Ford Five Hundred, Mercury Montego, Sedan
#1117 of 3623 Re: [mariner7]
Aug 20, 2004 (9:32 am)
I think that J. Mayes "leaked" the information about the refresh because he is in the process of leading a transition to a new unified signature style for Ford division vehicles, so-called heritage lines like the Mustang and T-Bird won't be affected by the changes. Ford division really hasn't had too much of a brand identity for their passenger cars since the early 90's with the aero look, then still under Jack Telnack, the started to move to what they were calling New Edge, exemplified in the pre 2005 Focus and the last version of the Mercury Cougar. Mayes seems to want to establish his style though and New Edge never quite made it, except maybe over to Cadillac where they call it Art & Science;) And having driven the Five Hundred I'll say the styling really needs to be seen in the metal to be appreciated and that the Accord and Camry aren't really direct competion, the new Five Hundred and Montego offer a level of space and verstility that they really can't come close to combined with even better driving dynamics.
Oh, a fiancée is a female, fiancé a male, so you should have added sex reassignment surgery o the nose job and implants:)
Aug 20, 2004 (1:30 pm)
At the ride and drive, the competition was identified as Impala and Avalon. I'd say this is accurate....
Aug 20, 2004 (2:13 pm)
Yes it is, and the demographics buying these vehicle's won't be distracted by it's styling. Accord and Camry are the epidomy of boring and bland, so if a customer were to crossshop (even if these vehicles are NOT the direct competitors) then they will feel at home.
Aug 21, 2004 (10:25 am)
please look at the Ford.com site under the Five Hundred and Freestyle. Theyre amazing.
Aug 22, 2004 (4:45 pm)
Looking on the 500 photos, I realized that you can not see on the instrument panel where you are (I mean Park, Reverse, Drive...). You have to look down to the shifter in order to see.
Did Mayes forget to include that?
Aug 22, 2004 (10:08 pm)
Its just funny how everyone says the Five Hundred looks boring and bland, yet they seem to find the passat beautiful. I gather they were designed by the same guy, hell from the side view the ford looks like a grown up, well adjusted passat.
Man, this just goes to show you how many people are, in the words of one george carlin "mostly stupid, ignorant, and believe what they are told"
Ive seen many passats (NYC area) and let me tell you, from the pictures listed on the ford.com website, the five hundred looks ages better, but for some reason the media, and thus the rest of us ignorant mortals, look at the five-hundred with bad eyes.
I don't know whether its because the five-hundred is American, or because its built by money-hungry unions, or just because its a ford, but for some reason this car is getting a bad rap.
This car sucks in many ways, yes. It does not have a Navigation system, no Xenon (ford model) headlamps, no 250hp yet, no RWD, no V8 model, and none of that beautiful wood paneling on the doors. Fine thats a given, but ford did not mess up the exterrior style. It looks very sophisticated, like a college professors car should be if those people actually did their jobs.
I posted many times about this cars lack of features, but in many ways it does make up for some of it in style. If they just add some more features, common ford, are you there?
Aug 23, 2004 (3:11 am)
I wonder how you will feel about that clean, pure, elegant style when they tack on the three bar Ford grille in three years!
Aug 23, 2004 (6:37 am)
Hey, ANT! akirby, (whom I respect a lot) is claiming that the 5 speed auto trans in the Aviator is assembled in the USA, from French parts. I understood the trans was manufactured somewhere in France, shipped here and installed in the cars in the US. Do you know which is the case? This discussion is going on over on the Aviator thread..... Figured you'd know conclusively......
Aug 23, 2004 (8:13 am)
Current Passat was introduced years ago, it was pretty avant garde then. It didn't copy from anybody, except its A4 cousin. Europe already has new Passat.