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#321 of 346 Re: 9-7x vs 9-2X warning [stlcarguy] by ynotny Jul 08, 2006 (8:45 am)
Replying to: stlcarguy (Feb 12, 2006 11:34 am) you're right..however this is the first car I've bought on my own since I was in my 20's ...too long ago...and my father at 86 was too old to ask for his aricraft engineer expertise. I knew nothing about the chassis design of the GM models or that they would leak on the INSIDE....I didn't have a clue this would be a problem. Yes, perhaps the first 7o% could have been determined prior, but lets face it...when you're in a dealership how much time do you spend checking every detail out...or perhaps I trusted the specs and what they told me as the truth. I didn't fold down the rear cargo space to see that it didnt fold flat..didn't notice there wasnt a flat spce to put anything or anywhere else for that matter..didn't know that cup holder was a joke or have a large drink to put in the cup holder. I also didn't know the bumper would CRUMBLE at a tap and would cost $1500 to fix and that the car would consistantly get such low mileage . How did I know ..test driving in the streets of NYc that the car wouldn't preform "like a sport car...and instead feel like a tank when trying to get to higher speeds or manuever on the hwy....regarding the recalls...I would prefer to tell you in an e-mail..I like my service rep..he has been the only good thing in this whole debacle....
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#323 of 346 Any news? by sasuke Nov 24, 2006 (6:33 pm)
How is the lease program with this car. Seems to be hard to find any info/talk on it. Replies to this message: driverofcars (Dec 13, 2006 12:51 pm) xxgrzesx (Aug 12, 2007 9:46 am) mma (Apr 09, 2008 4:22 am)
#324 of 346 9-7x: A car I regret leasing by driverofcars Dec 13, 2006 (12:51 pm)
Replying to: sasuke (Nov 24, 2006 6:33 pm) I'm about 3 months in on my lease, and man oh man do I regret getting a 9-7x. It's been a frustrating combination of bad design, bad service, and bad mileage; an overall terrible choice. Perhaps I'm spoiled having had Hondas, Toyotas, Subarus and BMW's, but the Saab/GM service, knowledgebase and design quality is profoundly lower on my 9-7 than on any other car I've owned. Some of the problems: Broken drivers seat, radio, bluetooth (GM installed), seals (body work issues...), electronics, light sensors, accessories (nobody at Saab seems to know how to order a cargo net), and other things, I could go on but won't. But the KING big daddy issue: the Saab redesign of the Trailblazer/Envoy back seat- the stuffing and 60/40 split leaves the seat at an angle which makes the LATCH system all messed up- so a child seat is askew and cannot be properly installed. Very frustrating as this was going to be our larger-big-safe car with our new baby, only to find out it's really flawed in so many design areas. Maybe the back seat was damaged the way the drivers seat was but nobody at Saab has any answers (let me back up- it felt like the driver's seat was canted heavily, they said there was no problem, one person told me it will 'break-in', I measured it with a level against other 9-7's and saw it was way off, so I finally, after 3rd try with service got to them to admit there was a problem, they took the seat off, and the way it was attached was all bent so they finally fixed it...). How I wish I forked over the extra loot to get a BMW or at least a similarly priced Volvo. I could have saved and gotten a Pilot, CR-V, anything. This car is a bust. And the kicker? The Saab service department is abysmal. Car has been in repeated times for the same thing. They are all nice enough in person, but probelms aren't solved- it feels like they are straddled with a defective car so they go through the motions knowing it won't ever get fixed right. When I get some free time I'd sure love to see if Honda or BMW will help me get out of this lease. Granted, it's somewhat inexpensive as GM has created artifical depreciation to get the lease I have, but it wasn't worth it- not even at $50 more a month ($50 x 27 months = $1350 I'd gladly pay to have a good car in the first place). Having a kissy kissy salesperson tell you to be sure to give them high ratings when I'm contacted by GM is intolerable in hindsight, especially when they become unreachable after the deal is closed. Oh well, at least it is comfortable and the stereo sounds nice as it mercilessly gulps fuel. Replies to this message: xxgrzesx (Aug 12, 2007 9:46 am)
#325 of 346 Problems continue by driverofcars Feb 23, 2007 (3:21 am)
Well, an update. Lots continues to go wrong with my 9-7. Electronics, seats, AC/Heat.... I was stopped at a light next to another person drving a 9-7 who said they loved their car but hated the constant flow of problems as well. 'Nuff said avoid the 9-7. Replies to this message: driverofcars (Feb 03, 2008 9:41 pm) kernick (Feb 21, 2008 8:33 am)
#326 of 346 Re: 9-7x: A car I regret leasing [driverofcars] by xxgrzesx Aug 12, 2007 (9:46 am)
Replying to: driverofcars (Dec 13, 2006 12:51 pm) Maybe its lemon, you should sue them. It's painless process. My father in law sued Chrysler. He went to two attorneys, one wanted pay hour pay, the other stated that under Illinois law he will collect from Chrysler if he wins, if he does not he would pay court costs ($300). Chrysler settled he got around $6,000.
#327 of 346 Honda? by waterdr Dec 21, 2007 (8:51 pm)
Funny...read the Honda and Toyota forums.....tons of problems there too. My neighbor across the street has a Honda Accord which he is sueing Honda under the Lemon Law. Car has been in the shop 18 times since July. Go figure.   While my Saab has not been perfect, I have never been treated better, ever by any service department.
#328 of 346 Re: Problems continue [driverofcars] by driverofcars Feb 03, 2008 (9:41 pm)
Replying to: driverofcars (Feb 23, 2007 3:21 am) Well.. 13k update. Haven't had any more problems. Actually, the car is a pleasure to drive except for the abysmal 12MPG I'm getting. Handled great in the snow. Super comfortable to drive. Brought it into service, and they fixed some busted stuff for free that they didn't need to and were super nice. I get the sense management got hip to the garbage service and overhauled policies. Well, I'm not getting another 12MPG car, but after the unreal slew of problems, it's been pretty good. Fit and finish is still awful, but it's been a decent car the last few months. Replies to this message: kernick (Feb 21, 2008 8:33 am)
#329 of 346 Re: Problems continue [driverofcars] by kernick Feb 21, 2008 (8:33 am)
Replying to: driverofcars (Feb 03, 2008 9:41 pm) Don't feel too bad about the mpg. I have a Jag X-Type AWD with the 3.0L engine and it isn't doing much better at this time of year. I think the cold weather and short trips are putting me at about 17mpg. It also doesn't help that the gasoline is 10% ethanol, as that decreases mpg.   It'll be nice when we have some diesel choices.
#330 of 346 In regard to your continuing whine... by saablcp Feb 22, 2008 (8:26 am)
Question?Just what kind of gas mileage do you think drivers of VW Touaregs,Volvo XC-90'S,BMW X-5'S,etc,etc, (equipped with similar output engines)are achieving?Did you do any research before purchasing a 4,800 lb.,AWD vehicle with a 6,500 lb.towing capacity?Your posts seem to presume you have a "unique" problem,My impression is you purchased what is generally considered a very good version of a traditional body-on-frame SUV and you would have been better served and happier with one of the newer unibody "X-Over" vehicles such as the Mazda CX-9 or every soccer moms vehicle of choice the Lexus RX-350 series!   Also very few reviews fault the overall fit and finish of the vehicle,yours may be the exception to the rule.I did get a chuckle out of your commenting that the fit and finish was"still bad".....did you expect little elves to work on your vehicle at night while you slept?

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