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GM Disguise--9-7x
by rceggl
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Jun 24, 2005 (4:12 pm)
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GM is trying to introduce another SUV by using the Saab name. Once GM goes into the full swing of controlling production of Saab vehicles, we will see the end of another solid vehicle at GM's hands. This company is totally out of control and it is so very, very sad. Leadership is totally absent.
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- #250 of 346
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Re: GM Disguise--9-7x [rceggl]
by jchan2
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Jun 24, 2005 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: rceggl (Jun 24, 2005 4:12 pm)
I think most of us agree.
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- #251 of 346
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Re: GM Disguise--9-7x [jchan2]
by saaboy
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Jun 24, 2005 (10:00 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jun 24, 2005 8:17 pm)
I think most of us, as well as other SAAB enthusiats have notived that But, come one. Have hope. I might be the most anti-GM-SAAB guy ever, but even after noticing what is going on, I manage not to break down crying (except for earlier in this post). We all know it's happening, now it's just a matter of picking the year of the least GM and most SAAB model. I'm thinking even the newer 9-5s are in pretty good shape compared to the 9-3 or the rebadged cars? What do you guys think?
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- #252 of 346
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The 9-5 and 9-3
by jchan2
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Jun 25, 2005 (10:49 pm)
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I think are the best Saabs currently available for two reasons:
1) they're not rebadge jobs (they share platforms, sure, but they look very different from their counterparts)
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2) They're built in SWEDEN!
How can a Saab built in Japan or Moraine, Ohio, be a genuine Saab?
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Re: The 9-5 and 9-3 [jchan2]
by saaboy
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Jun 27, 2005 (8:38 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jun 25, 2005 10:49 pm)
Well yes, I think most people agree that the 9-7[X] and 9-2[X] are not SAABs. But when it comes down to the 9-3 and 9-5, I think 9-3 is losing , even though I like the fact that the new V6 has 250 HP, 9-5 gets the same numbers with a smaller engine and even better. SAAB supposedly has designed an ethanol powered version of the 9-5 Wagon wit 300 horsepower! And I bet they could get more HP, but I highly doubt it will go into production. Anyway, look at the 9-3. All the new features that a 9-5 should have, but doesn't. Reaxs, aluminum block and heads instead of cast iron on the 9-5 (not that aluminum is neceserily better) and other things such as bluetooth even? GM is OBVIOUSLY pushing the 9-3. Which means they want to make it more appealing more price-wise. Which means more shared parts. Which also means less money spent on making the car a good-quality-reliable-real SAAB.
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9-3 and 9-5
by jchan2
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Jun 28, 2005 (9:51 pm)
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I like the 9-5 actually, and I think it can go on for another year or two. Problem is, there won't be a new Saab 9-5 until 2009.
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Re: 9-3 and 9-5 [jchan2]
by saaboy
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Jun 29, 2005 (9:29 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jun 28, 2005 9:51 pm)
Wait, wait. First of all, I thought that date was much earlier. Second of all, that is the date the good 9-5 croaks. A redesigning (a.k.a .chance to rebadge) is not good...
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I remember
by jchan2
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Jun 30, 2005 (2:27 am)
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reading somewhere (I think it was Motor Trend) that the next generation Saab 9-5 would be based off of a lengthened next generation Epsilon platform that will be shared with the next generation 9-3.
The current 9-5, although very, very, good, is beginning to show its age.
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Re: I remember [jchan2]
by saaboy
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Jun 30, 2005 (7:27 pm)
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Replying to: jchan2 (Jun 30, 2005 2:27 am)
Yea, I see little SAAB/GM articles every once in ahwhile in motor trend. Just got new motor trend issue today as a matter of fact. 9-5 is already sharing it's platform wit 9-3 ain't it? As well as malibu and malibu maxx? Ew, I flinch everytime i see one of those on the road. 9-5 is aging, yes. I have a question though. Considering im a little boy, hence my name, I don't know how much of the car is actually made up by the "platform" or fuselage hehe, i mean chassis. If 9-5 is one of safest cars on the road, which i believe it is, then why doesn't GM brag about their malibus being so safe? How much safety or strengthening is added? I dunno anything...
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