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Re: Cutlass Ciera - possible rust problem? [Mr_Shiftright]
by pgilbert
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Nov 07, 2005 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 07, 2005 12:03 pm)
Thanks for the input - I will get the professional inspection. Problem is, it appears that it's only the one location (at the towers) that is the concern - the car is immaculate on the exterior - with original 1991 paint job! But of course, the underside is the bit that counts.
I believe they now use 99% salt to 1% sand on the roads in Manitoba! Believe it or not, last winter they did a pilot project spraying concentrated brine on a section of the Trans-Canada Hwy and may proceed to expand the practice as it was so 'successful'!
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Re: Cutlass Ciera - possible rust problem? [pgilbert]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Nov 08, 2005 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: pgilbert (Nov 07, 2005 6:56 pm)
Well look at it this way...rust can't get to the top of the towers without having also touched the bottom and elsewhere. The issue here is structural safety not cosmetics, and a body shop I think is the best judge of whether the car has been compromised or not structurally.
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Re: Cutlass Ciera - possible rust problem? [Mr_Shiftright]
by pgilbert
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Nov 09, 2005 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 08, 2005 10:52 am)
Precisely. I accepted the vendor's offer to do an inspection with the vehicle on a hoist and will get it to a body shop if necessary.
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Re: Rust Never Sleeps--Questions About Rust Problems [KarenS]
by safouane
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Feb 05, 2006 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: KarenS (Nov 26, 2003 6:55 am)
I have major rust all over the edge between the roof and the glass wind shield, the workshop is concerned as removing the windshield could break, he is advising the use of chemical material that is supposed to "consume" the rust and fill in the hole gaps, then paint.
Issue, he's got no chemicals, any heard of this treatment and can advise manufacturer?
Thanks. safouane
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rust and safety
by ivan5
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May 09, 2006 (11:00 am)
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Hi
not sure if this "rust" thread is still active, but I have one for you... I just bought a 1991 4runner for $500. Runs strong enough, but it's a total rust bucket. The owner just had the brakelines replaced due to rust, so they're OK. It's all through the undercarriage, but as far as I can tell there are no holes in the actual frame, just some flaking. My question is this: is this thing actually dangerous to drive? I only use it on the rare occasion when I need 4WD (camping etc, maybe 20 times a year). I'll happily drive it until it crumbles unless it is actually dangerous. Could some major piece of the suspension or frame actually fall apart on the freeway? Thanks
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Re: rust and safety [ivan5]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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May 09, 2006 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: ivan5 (May 09, 2006 11:00 am)
Well no one can say without a thorough inspection. If the rust has weakened some point where the suspension attaches, you're damn right it's dangerous. That would include such things as shock towers, steering box mounts and rear axle mounts. Rule of thumb, if you can jam a sharp awl into the rust and it penetrates, and this rust is near a suspension mounting point, you have a problem.
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Re: rust and safety [Mr_Shiftright]
by ivan5
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May 09, 2006 (12:42 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 09, 2006 12:21 pm)
thanks for the reply... The mechanics who looked at it were vague about the safety piece. They said it was "more or less" safe, but I couldn't nail them down. Would a body shop be better equipped to tell me? Do they do that kind of thing (i.e. inspect for rust damage)? It looks like the shock towers are a little flakey, which make me nervous. thanks again
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Re: rust and safety [ivan5]
by cpmike
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Jun 01, 2006 (8:07 pm)
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Replying to: ivan5 (May 09, 2006 12:42 pm)
I'm a motor vehicle inspector who owns a 1991 toyota 4runner. Your best bet to find out if you have a saftey issue is to go to your autobody shop and have a structural integrity inspection done. I'm currently replacing several sections of my body that have rusted out. Common places that they rust are around and in the rear wheel wells, (this could have your side sections of your rear bumper falling off), your front fenders and the drain hole plug up in the lower part of the doors and tailgate causing that area to rust. Take a screwdriver to any areas of the frame you think might be bad. If your truck is like mine, it will just be the paint scaling off.
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RUST OLDS CUTLASS
by 127horse
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Jul 06, 2006 (10:03 am)
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We had rust bubbles and some breakthrough around the gas cover on our 99 Olds Cutlass. The body shop attempted a patch that failed because in one day the bubbles were back! Subsequently we authorized the replacement of the rear quarter panel. We saw the removed piece which has a large area of rust and the body shop said they've never seen anything quite like it on a car just 7 years old. The warranty booklet says rust through is covered through 6 years. Has anyone heard of similar Olds problems that GM is covering?
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