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Rust Never Sleeps -- Questions About Rust Problems

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What is this discussion about? Car Safety, Exterior, Auto Body, Paint, Car Warranties, Coupe, Convertible, Hatchback, Truck, Sedan, Wagon, SUV, Van

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#28 of 67 Re: What's latest advice on electronic rust-proofing / corrosion control [M by prairiestyle

Jul 11, 2005 (12:46 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 11, 2005 11:07 am)
The List price is $900 CDN. I lost interest at that point, but after checking a bit further, I found that similar electronic device themselves retail for about $200 US. Then you start to layer on the other "standard" protection products (paint sealant, undercoating, fabric protector), plus the insurance component - which is why I'm guessing they quote such an expensive price. Haven't tested the ability to negotiate down.
 
I'm still looking for the details on the specifics of the coverage for this package. I'll re-reply if/when I get those. I thought I heard the dealer use the phrase "lifetime" - but not placing any stock in that unless I see it on the warranty certificate.
 
They claim the functional difference is that it stops rust from "the inside cavity". The general technical difference is it uses electronics rather than "liquids", so they claim it doesn't suffer from typical concerns of improper application of protectant, voiding factory warranties, having to re-apply/re-treat.

#29 of 67 Re: What's latest advice on electronic rust-proofing / corrosion control [M [prairiestyle] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Jul 11, 2005 (3:52 pm)

Replying to: prairiestyle (Jul 11, 2005 12:46 pm)
It may in fact work I don't know...I wondering if it's similar to corrosion protection systems on boats....but really it comes down to what do you get for what you pay? What's the warranty if it doesn't work is what I'd want to know.

#30 of 67 Re: What's latest advice on electronic rust-proofing / corrosion control [Mr_Shiftright] by corvette

Jul 11, 2005 (6:26 pm)

Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 11, 2005 3:52 pm)
I read somewhere (I think it was on Google Groups) that it works on bridges but not on cars. I'd pass. In Canada, I think I'd go with a waxy coating like the Krown stuff (Cosmoline?) for long-term rust protection.

#31 of 67 Re: What's latest advice on electronic rust-proofing / corrosion control [c by prairiestyle

Jul 12, 2005 (12:53 pm)

Replying to: corvette (Jul 11, 2005 6:26 pm)
C - thanks for pointing me at google. Lots more discussion there and it's helping me make a decision (which is to decline their offer - unless the company shows me some compelling insurance/warranty info).

#32 of 67 Useful adage by hpmctorque

Jul 13, 2005 (3:01 pm)

When in doubt, stay out, or take a pass, which is what your previous message seems to imply. I'm just seconding your inclination here.

#33 of 67 Re: What's latest advice on electronic rust-proofing / corrosion control [prairiestyle] by swschrad

Aug 22, 2005 (7:55 pm)

Replying to: prairiestyle (Jul 11, 2005 9:30 am)
sounds like a shuck -- be sure they are using transistorized electronic rust proofing instead of the tube version, the 90 volt batteries the tubes need are getting hard to find and expensive.
 
the automaker did electrostatic plating of the body with metallized primer when they made it. you aren't going to be able to stick anything else there anyway. that's how I'm sure this dealer is jiving you. someplace in a lockbox royal sun alliance insurance has an actuarial study that says they aren't going to have to pay out on this. they aren't going to have one that says this works.
 
you will do better having the undercarraige washed regularly at the car wash during snow/salt season. and don't park in a heated garage, you're better off leaving the crud frozen until you thaw it and flush it away with clean water at the wash.
 
sounds like they are systematically plating your credit card on these

#34 of 67 Buying a car from a rust-prone state by uponone

Sep 03, 2005 (2:55 pm)

What are people's opinions on buying a car from a rust-prone state? i.e. MN, Upper East Coast etc. I'm looking at a 2001 BMW M3 from MN, NY, and NJ but I'm hesitant to buy something from there because I'll have a greater chance for rust down the road. Should I be overly concerned?

#35 of 67 Re: Buying a car from a rust-prone state [uponone] by Mr_Shiftright HOST

Sep 03, 2005 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: uponone (Sep 03, 2005 2:55 pm)
You'd want to lift the car and examine it carefully at least.

#36 of 67 3rd gen camaro and winter weather by wscottmullen

Sep 23, 2005 (10:05 pm)

i have a 1985 camaro and i've just moved from texas to massachusetts. i've heard stories that the winter weather creates a lot of rust underneath the car. if this is true, is there anyway to prevent it from happening? thanks.

#37 of 67 Re: 3rd gen camaro and winter weather [wscottmullen] by tigercat21

Sep 23, 2005 (11:24 pm)

Replying to: wscottmullen (Sep 23, 2005 10:05 pm)
Yes it will rust under your car and other parts of car also. It will also cause emergency brake cables to seize and brake lines to rust along with gas lines and gasoline tanks. Most peeps will pull a classic car off the roads in the northeast, the winter with the salt on the roads is brutal.
 
Peeps that keep nice cars on the road must wash undercarrage often. I knew a guy who coated the whole underneath of his car with a mixture of oil and grease. It was messy to apply but i got to admit it worked. A product called Fluid Film is something i've had good luck with also. It sort of congeals and sticks to metal and fights rust very well. You have to shop around for it though. Brake shops around here carry it.

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