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Re: Honda vs. Ford [blueiedgod] by jipster
Jul 19, 2007 (4:41 am)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 19, 2007 3:49 am)

You make conclusions
 
Well, I would have to question your numbers a bit. But, I agree that it wasn't a wise finacial decision for your girlfriend to sell her Focus. She should have held onto it for another 3 or 4 years.
 
I have one for you though:
 
8 year old Olds Cutlass Supreme: Paid $1,500...owned 7 years... sold it for $750. $1,500 - $750 = $750 for 7 years depreciation. Not to bad for a domestic huh?
Was a very nice car when I bought it, not so good when I sold it.
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [blueiedgod] by advequityguy
Jul 19, 2007 (9:33 am)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 19, 2007 3:49 am)

Sure, I'll take the bait and make some conclusions. Let's review.
 
You claim that you bought a 2002 civic for 14500 and traded it in 3 years later for 12500. A car that does a very good job of holding it's value should be at about 50% of what you paid in 3 years. If a dealer gave you 12500 for it and intended to resell it, they would have to add a shop fee of at least $500 to the cost. Add that to the standard dealership pack, and you would have about 13900 as the lowest amount they could sell it for to brake even. They would then have to find a sucker, or I mean customer willing to spend $14000 on a 3 year old car that they could buy new for 14500, just like you did. With this logic, If you would have leased the civic, your lease payment should have been around 65 bucks a month, assuming you paid your taxes. If your information concerning resale is true, Honda financial is REALLY taking advantage of the good ole American consumer.
 
My conclusion is this: Either your friendly Honda dealership really rang your bell on your CRV purchase, or we're being just a bit misleading with our little parable. I'm thinking it's the latter. Which Honda dealer do you work for, BTW?
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [jipster] by advequityguy
Jul 19, 2007 (9:34 am)

Replying to: jipster (Jul 19, 2007 4:41 am)

And buy the way, if you paid 15000 for a Focus, that's gotta be the most expensive freeking Focus of all time.
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [advequityguy] by jlawrence01
Jul 19, 2007 (12:36 pm)

Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 19, 2007 9:34 am)

And buy the way, if you paid 15000 for a Focus, that's gotta be the most expensive freeking Focus of all time.
 
While I would not do it, there are a lot of Ford Focus sold for $15k or more. The sticker on a fully loaded top-end model is $17.6k when I last entered a Ford dealership ... and that would be one of the WORST new car purchases.
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [jlawrence01] by advequityguy
Jul 19, 2007 (12:42 pm)

Replying to: jlawrence01 (Jul 19, 2007 12:36 pm)

That's what I'm saying. A nice Focus with power equipment stickers for about 16k with a $2500 rebate. That would make it about 13 and a half if you pay full sticker price. If you actually paid 15 back in 2002, I think you set the record, which leads me to believe this story isnt exactly true.
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [advequityguy] by british_rover
Jul 19, 2007 (2:27 pm)

Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 19, 2007 12:42 pm)

What were programs like back in 2002 though? There might not have been much rebate money on the Focus then or it might have only been towards the end of the model year. He also might have had some accessories put on and is counting those in with the purchase price which he really shouldn't do since they offer zero value come trade time.
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [blueiedgod] by metro123
Jul 19, 2007 (4:22 pm)

Replying to: blueiedgod (Jul 19, 2007 3:49 am)

I don't remember the Civic Si's selling for $14,500. Weren't they really hot cars selling for closer to $19,000?
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [metro123] by british_rover
Jul 19, 2007 (4:28 pm)

Replying to: metro123 (Jul 19, 2007 4:22 pm)

Good point. I just checked cars.com and it lists Civic SI hatchback starting MSRP at 19,000 dollars.
 
I doubt Honda had that much in incentives on the Civic back then although I suppose it is possible since the SI hatchback was a very unloved vehicle.
 
CIVIC SI MSRP
#49 of 70
Re: Honda vs. Ford [advequityguy] by blueiedgod
Jul 20, 2007 (9:54 am)

Replying to: advequityguy (Jul 19, 2007 9:33 am)

The MSRP on the 2002 Civic Si was $19,400 (invoice was about $17,600). Honda was running a "marketing incentive" to clear out the 2002 Civic's in addition to the 1.9% APR.
 
Yes, my Si was listed on the dealer's website for $15,000 within 3 days. I assume they sold it for $14,000, it was gone from the lot a week later, when I went to check on her.
 
I almost always buy my Hondas when Honda has "marketing incentive." Right now Accord is a great buy, since with the incentive it is cheaper to buy a brand new Accord than it is to buy a 3 year old used one.
 
I bought the CR-V for $20,500, which is about $500 over dealer's cost after you factor in the "marketing incentive" Honda had on the CR-V at the end of March of 2005.
 
As to the Focus, the deal was either to take the rebate or get 0% financing. She chose Financing. We are not talking today, this was all done in 2002, when Ford was not in deep red as it is now.
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Re: Honda vs. Ford [jipster] by blueiedgod
Jul 20, 2007 (9:57 am)

Replying to: jipster (Jul 19, 2007 4:41 am)

Well, I would have to question your numbers a bit. But, I agree that it wasn't a wise finacial decision for your girlfriend to sell her Focus. She should have held onto it for another 3 or 4 years.
  
I have one for you though:
  
8 year old Olds Cutlass Supreme: Paid $1,500...owned 7 years... sold it for $750. $1,500 - $750 = $750 for 7 years depreciation. Not to bad for a domestic huh?
Was a very nice car when I bought it, not so good when I sold it.

 
I have a better one.
 
Circa 1995: Bought a 1985 honda Civic DX hatchback for $1,500. It had 200,000+ miles on the clock. Drove it for 3 years, sold it for $1,600 with over 250,000 miles. $100 APPRECIATION in 3 years.

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