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May 25, 2004 (7:44 pm)
Regarding your post #533, do you know if the new ECM programming applies to the 2004 V6 Solara?? I think the engine and transmission are the same between the V6 Solara and RX 330. Your description regarding the delay in downshift is exactly what's happening with my car and I don't like it. Should I contact Toyota directly instead of the dealership? Or should I take my Toyota to a Lexus dealership?
#542 of 1867 Re: Cotmc [theflow #541]
May 25, 2004 (9:27 pm)
My best guess would be to contact Toyota directly, and ask them if they have issued any technical service bulletins on the Solara transmission shifting, similar to the Lexus TSIB TC005-03, titled "ECM Calibration: Shifting Enhancement". I wouldn't go directly to a Lexus dealer, as I suspect the software is different for the Solara.
Regarding the RX330, I understand that this ECM update was performed for all factory builds starting as early as December 2003, maybe even earlier. I do not know if a similar issue, and fix, apply to the V6 Solara, but I think it is worth investigating! This may also apply to the '04 ES330 and Camry SE V6.
Also, just in case your Solara is brand new, allow some time for the transmission to "learn" your driving patterns. It may grow more responsive after you have a couple thousand miles on it.
#543 of 1867 Re: Cotmc [cotmc #542]
May 26, 2004 (7:54 am)
Thanks for the reply. My car currently has 6xxx miles and this "hesitation" is annoying. I don't drive fast. But I'm annoyed by this hesitation because everytime when I slow down to like 30 miles to make a turn, the car won't downshift. So after the turn, I hit the gas and there's no response. Then it downshifts and the car surges forward. The same thing happens when I slow down to a red light, then the light turns green, I hit the gas and there's no response. And all of a sudden it downshifts and surges forward.....
My Solara was purchased in October 2003 and I believe it's manufactured in the US Kentucky plant? Is the RX 330 manufactured in Japan? I think there's no TSBs for this matter for the Solara. But I guess I will contact Toyota directly.
#544 of 1867 Hesitations....
May 26, 2004 (8:40 am)
I think that all who own FWD or front biased AWD will begin to experience this. My 01 AWD RX seemed to me to be shifting upward or maybe even into neutral during stopping or slowing or sometimes even coasting.
Given all of the posts I have seen complaining of the resulting effects of this I have concluded that it is intentional on the part of the manufacturers. My guess is that it is the simpliest way to overcome the threat of loss of control from engine braking on the front wheels during directional manuvers on adverse roadbed conditions.
Think about it, would you really want the engine to quickly apply HIGH torque to the front driven wheels at the same time you're turning hard and asking those same tires for their best roadbed adhesion charactoristics??
That's the (one of) nice things about RWD or rear biased AWD, while you can still apply too much torque to the rear at least you're taking advantage of all four tire contact patches.
#545 of 1867 Re: Hesitations.... [wwest #544]
May 26, 2004 (9:22 pm)
Well, the thing is, you don't apply your brake when you're making turns. You apply the brake before making turns. Also, we're talking about 30 mph and not 60 mph. Even it downshifts to the 1st or 2nd gear won't apply too much HIGH torque to the front wheels.
May 27, 2004 (5:33 am)
Does anyone have experience with lemom laws, especially in Massachusetts?
I'm seriously considering the lemon option for my rx330. The dash has been pulled 3 times, the A pillars have been worked on three times, the center console has been removed, the headliner has been removed, the moon roof pan has been raised, etc.... and the rattles just keep on coming. The latest one is the worst. At this point I think it just can't be fixed. I'm not worried about meeting the criteria for lemon status in MA - three unsuccesful repair attempts for one defect, or 15 days in repair for any combination of defects within a year of purchase - because my rx meets both. My concern is with other things. The MA lemon law states that anyone whose car meets the criteria is entitled to a refund or a replacement of the car. Can replacement mean a new OR a used car? If I get a refund will I have to pay sales tax again on another car. Obviously I will talk to the appropriate officials here in MA but would like to hear from anyone with real world experience.
Other questions - will a Lexus dealer help me, or will I be on my own? I bought from one dealer and took my service to another dealer after the first one couldn't fix the dash. They dropped a screw which rolled around inside it. Should I approach the selling dealer to ask for help, at least as a courtesy? Should I notify them, again as a courtesy? How about the servicing dealer? Will Lexus corporate be helpful? In general, will I be in for a big adversarial struggle or will Lexus want to take care of this problem to my satisfaction with the least fuss possible. Has anyone tried the arbitration services - either BBB AUTO LINE offered by Lexus or by state agencies?
People on this board were very helpful when I bought this car, and I've tried to keep you posted on the problems and fixes I've experienced. Sorry to say I'm at the end of my patience. Funny thing - I loved the rx330 I had as a loaner and would get another 330 if it were as good as the loaner. Meanwhile, any input would be greatly appreciated.
#547 of 1867 warped rotors at 15K
May 27, 2004 (1:20 pm)
Add me to the "not a happy camper" list.
Today I took the wife's RX330 in for the 15K service. I mentioned I had noticed some vibrations, particularly within the steering column, when applying the brake mildly while traveling at highway speeds. They just notified me that I have warped rotors on the front axle. They will be happy to replace the front rotors and brake pads for only $550! (Gee, where do I sign??) They found no evidence that would allow this repair to be covered under warranty.
My wife is the primary driver of this car, and we were both careful about driving this car conservatively during the break-in period. In fact, I believe we have done a decent job of not driving this car too aggressively during the entire time we've owned it. We typically buy new cars every 2-3 years, but this problem has never happened to us before. I can't help but wonder if anybody else is going to experience this problem within the first 20K miles of ownership?
I guess I will try to find a good brake shop and see if they can turn the rotors and replace the pads for a reasonable fee. I just can't see paying $550 for a brake job on a car that is only 1 year old!
I'd be interested in hearing anybody else's comments/advice.
Katherine: Sorry to hear the news on your RX. I know absolutely nothing on lemon laws, but I hope you can get some timely information and make the law work to your advantage. Please keep us posted.
May 27, 2004 (1:46 pm)
I cannot imagine that Lexus isn't willing to replace or at least turn your brake rotors. I would find another dealer and be willing to make noise if this isn't fixed.
But first be really sure your wife doesn't often ride the brake pedal ever so lightly. Fuel economy means lower weight and lower weight means thinner brake rotors and today's thinner brake rotors are much more subject to warpage than those of yesteryear.
Driving along the highway I am always amazed at the number of vehicles with the brake lights on continuoisly.
May 27, 2004 (7:33 pm)
Sorry to hear about the brakes. I don't have any brake problems to report (yet).
I am due for my next oil change and I have a laundry list of items I want my dealer to look at. Nothing major... mainly just all of the updated TSBs since my last service. But I have noticed at times a small hesitation in the transmission between second and third at times in recent weeks. I've already had the original fix done. I have been on the road (via air) more than I've been at home in the past three months. I half wonder if the RX is trying to "re-learn" my driving habits after it has been parked for days at the airport.
Please let us know the outcome of your situation.
#550 of 1867 Re: warped rotors at 15K [cotmc #547]
May 27, 2004 (8:54 pm)
I checked with a couple other forums. I found a couple reports involving premature rotor warping on RX300's or ES300's, but nothing yet for the RX330.
I placed a phone call into Lexus Customer Service; politely stating my circumstances, and asking if they had any history of this problem for the RX330. After a couple of minutes, the customer service agent got back with me to report they had no data on this problem with the RX330. I then asked him if Lexus might be able to help me out with this repair, as sort of a goodwill gesture. I am supposed to hear back sometime next week.
By the way, my wife says she is confident she doesn't ride the brake pedal. I saw one post in another forum where someone mentioned over-tightening the lug nuts could be a contributing factor. I'm not sure if I agree, but it just so happens we had 2 new tires installed on our front axle about 3000 miles ago by a local Goodyear shop.