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Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Exterior, Engine, Interior, Transmission, Truck
Sep 11, 2004 (9:02 pm)
I believe Motor Trend has more weight on the decision on the No. 1 truck, than Edmunds.
The redesigned Ford F-150 earned the top spot as the most popular pickup with shoppers on MSN Autos for the second quarter of 2004. The F-150 was also the fifth most popular vehicle overall for the same time period.
The Toyota Tacoma, a consistently popular compact pickup, was second with shoppers for the second quarter of the year. A sporty truck with nostalgic styling, the all-new Chevrolet SSR was third on the list.
The list of the ten most popular pickups on MSN Autos is based on visits to the site's vehicle research pages during the second quarter, April through June, of the year. Here is the complete list:
1. Ford F-150
Ford's half-ton pickup line is redesigned for 2004 with a stronger, bolder look and five distinct versions: XL, STX, XLT, FX4 and Lariat, each with unique styling. Regular Cab and SuperCab versions are six inches longer and the Regular Cab adds rear-hinged panels to access behind-seat storage. The complete F-Series line has been the best-selling truck in America for 26 straight years and the best-selling vehicle overall for 21 years.
2. Toyota Tacoma
The Tacoma is in its sixth generation and is now available in Regular Cab, extended Xtracab and 4-door Double Cab configurations. For 2004 Vehicle Stability Control is available as an option on PreRunner and 4-wheel-drive trims with V6 engines. The current Tacoma was designed in the U.S. and is built in the New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. factory in Fremont, Calif.
3. Chevrolet SSR
The SSR is a sporty two-seat pickup that takes its styling cues from Chevrolet trucks of the 1940s, but includes a thoroughly modern power-retractable hardtop for open-air driving. Powered by a 300-horsepower version of the legendary small-block Chevy V8, the SSR design features large flared fenders and a wide stance, punctuated by 19-inch wheels and tires at the front and 20-inch meats at the rear.
4. Ford Ranger
Another popular compact truck with MSN shoppers, the Ranger's updates for 2004 include a raised power dome hood, a nostril grille with horizontal bars on 2WD trims, a honeycomb grille on 4WD trims, a new front valance, a rally gauge cluster, and Ford-style steering wheel.
5. Dodge Ram 1500
The Ram 1500 was redesigned with bolder, distinctive Dodge styling for 2002, and the famous HEMI name returned to the line late in 2003 with the 345-horsepower 5.7-liter HEMI Magnum engine. For 2004 the Laramie adds a chrome grille surround, a chrome billet grille center, chrome moldings, silver interior trim, and a unique leather seat design with contrasting colors.
6. Chevrolet Silverado 1500
The Silverado replaced Chevrolet's C/K pickup line with all-new styling for 1999. For 2004 a new half-ton 1500 Crew Cab is added. All Silverado 1500 trims now include cruise control, power door locks, a chrome bumper and an AM/FM/CD audio system.
7. Chevrolet Colorado
The Colorado is Chevrolet's all-new midsize pickup that replaces the S-10 for 2004. The Colorado is larger and stronger than the S-10 and offers Regular Cab, Extended Cab and Crew Cab versions. Power comes from two new engines: the Vortec 2800 inline 4-cylinder and the Vortec 3500 inline 5-cylinder, both derived from the Vortec 4200 inline 6-cylinder.
8. Dodge Dakota
The midsize Dakota continues to be popular, with a Stampede package offered for 2004 including monochromatic front and rear fascia moldings, ground-effect side moldings, 16-inch aluminum wheels, wheel flares and a rear stabilizer bar. The new 2005 Dakota is due this fall with a bigger, bolder look, following the design direction of the Ram.
9. Toyota Tundra
Toyota's full-size Tundra received updated styling for 2003 and the Stepside Access Cab was added. The Tundra Double Cab debuts for 2004. This year Toyota focused on rear-seat comfort—a rear-seat DVD entertainment system is offered. The Tundra Double Cab features one of the longest beds available for a double cab half-ton truck.
10. Nissan Titan
The first full-size pickup from Nissan, the 2004 Titan offers a fresh alternative in the category. Titan features bold styling with available King Cab and Crew Cab trims, powered by a 305-horsepower 5.6-liter V8 with a 5-speed automatic transmission. A unique feature is a factory-installed Utili-track tie-down system in the bed. The Titan was conceived, developed and engineered primarily in North America and is produced at Nissan's new facility in Canton, Mississippi.
Sep 11, 2004 (10:58 pm)
Motor Trend they love their long term F150. Well everything except the engine that is. Many of the editors do not see where this new 5.4L has 300 horses in it. I think another reason MT chose the F150 0ver the Titan was its very customizable with 5 different trim levels 3 different box styles. It can be everything for everyone. I'm not much of a pick up guy but both trucks have some great styling. Yeah the new F150 does look more manly and aggressive then the Heritage Model. Although I haven't seen anything more aggressive looking then the Hemi Sport Ram, the thing is huge.
Sep 12, 2004 (1:44 pm)
I must be missing something. The SSR is a very expensive limited production truck. How does Msn define popular?
#932 of 1169 Re: Motor Trend [04f150l4x4]
Sep 12, 2004 (9:56 pm)
How often did Edmunds website have hits for the same vehicles? Is MSN website the measuring stick for researching vehicles on the web? How many hits did Motor Trend have for the same vehicles?
Sep 13, 2004 (10:35 am)
does Motor Trend have a website listing all their car of the year awards? I'd be interested to see how many of them (hind sight) turned out to be decent vehicles of their time vs. fireball, engine siezing junkers just a few years later.
wasn't a 'K' car from Chrysler crowned once by MT?
#934 of 1169 Re: Motor Trend [aspesisteve]
Sep 13, 2004 (10:40 am)
yeah...along with the pinto, pacer, javelin, etc...
the list goes on.
funny, too...the honda accord has NEVER been MTCOY. its one of the most successful, reliable, long-lasting vehicles ever put on the road.
#935 of 1169 Consumers' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2004
Sep 13, 2004 (10:35 pm)
See the article below from edmunds. This is why EDMUNDS reviews have no weight. The FORD sold more trucks (F150) than Nissan (Titan), therefor FORD F150 had more consumers......Check out the liberal adjectives (burly, massive, innovative). I want to know how much money Nissan is paying off Edmunds to write this..
Large Truck: Nissan Titan
In what has to be called a surprising upset victory, the all-new Nissan Titan edged out the redesigned Ford F-150 for top honors in this fiercely fought category. The Titan's burly V8, massive interior and innovative features helped it squeak out a victory by just 1 percent of the vote (27 percent vs. 26 percent). Such a tight margin of victory shows that Ford's revamped half-ton is still a popular pickup. With its slick interior, numerous body styles and smooth ride, there's still plenty of fight left in the Ford. Further back in the pack were the Toyota Tundra (15 percent) and Chevrolet Avalanche (11 percent), two trucks that prove there's always a market for specialty trucks. Rounding out the list were the Dodge Ram (8 percent), Cadillac EXT (7 percent) and Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra twins with 6 percent.
Sep 14, 2004 (10:55 am)
Has had customers for how long now compared to the Titan? Thats right for a great long time. So yes the F150 is more readily known, and will have a more loyal following. So again the F150 will outsell the Titan no matter what Nissan does for the time being. Doesn't mean the F150 is the best pickup out there. Same as the Explorer is the top selling SUV which I own one. But its not because its the best SUV on the road. Its because its the best known one. Personally I am considering replacing it with either an Armada or a Durango. For the better tow ratings. I dont think Edmunds is taking ad Money from Nissan lol. MT on the other hand lol. But everyone will have an opinion. But if the Titan has the same engine and trans characteristics as the Armada then yeah it will have some good power. Like I posted before although MT chose the new F150 as the TOTY they still have gripes about its power or lack of it. So its not all that perfect. Then again no truck is lol.
#937 of 1169 Re: Consumers' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2004 [04f150l4x4]
Sep 14, 2004 (11:22 am)
you MUST be smoking the funny stuff today, dude.
the f150 is the best selling vehicle in the world. this is not in dispute. but volume has nothing to do with the truck itself. is a kia rio better than a porsche 911 gt3? according to your logic, it is.
#938 of 1169 Re: Consumers' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2004 [bowke28]
Sep 14, 2004 (3:54 pm)
Bowke, Gotta admit, I admire your last 2 posts. Like hittin' that old nail on the head.