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Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Exterior, Engine, Interior, Transmission, Truck
Jul 11, 2004 (1:20 am)
OK. I spent the better part of Friday test driving both the Nissan Titan LE and the Ford F-150 FX4. In my opinion, nether truck felt "anemic". The Nissan seemed to handle a little better, but the Nissan just felt "cheap" to me on the inside. In contrast, the Ford with its leather captains chairs that look to be straight out of a Volvo, are absolutely the nicest seats I have ever sat in. Today, I went back and bought the F-150. Granted, I paid a little more for the Ford, but I believe that the Ford is still a better value. Here's a couple of pics of what mine looks like inside and out...I will take some of my actual truck tomorrow.
#761 of 1169 F-150 VS TITAN?????
Jul 11, 2004 (7:42 am)
I came to this forum to get a little info and do some research on the F-150 & Titan, but you guys only wanna bicker back and forth about personalities!
I'm trying to decide on which truck to buy...
I guess I'll go elsewhere for info........
I do thank the few that have stuck to the topic, however, it's very helpful!
#762 of 1169 no thanks to ford or nissan.
Jul 18, 2004 (6:12 pm)
the titan has a very cheap intier quality and radios. that is why f.m. does not recieve very well.they use thin plastic and the a pillar is ridiciously large and causes massive blindspots.i have no idea of the endurance of there endurance engines, however nissans have alot of recalls and just wait and see when they start rolling in the recalls.
#763 of 1169 A matter of personal choice and opinion.
Jul 18, 2004 (9:09 pm)
I Bought a Toyota Tacoma V6 le extended cab in 95. I Thoroughly enjoyed the truck but due to my family growing, (a 3 year old and a 1 year old) I needed a bigger truck (crew cab). I have always loved the F-350s and bought a used 2003 duely lariat.
I had some problems with my wifeís van (2002 Dodge Grand Caravan) and she absolutely would not drive the duely while the van was in the shop, we ended up having to rent a vehicle, it was also a little to wide for the town I live in. So, as much as I hated to do it I started to look to get another truck. I initially wanted to just get a Ford F-series (non-duely) to replace it.
I went to the ford dealership and drove a 2004 f-150 lariat (fully loaded except for sunroof. I kept leaving the dealership for 3 days, while I drove the truck home every night. I worked out an awesome deal with the dealership. Due to my continuously leaving the dealership they had agreed to sell it to me for Kelly blue book invoice price. Plus the rebate, Plus 500 dollars off for military discount (and also another 1000 off for some dealership money they get from ford.) I actually donít know where this last thousand was coming from. They said they had 52 vouchers to give to whom they wanted up to 4 vouchers per person. Each voucher was worth 250 dollars. Bowke28 probably knows what I am talking about.
Anyway, while I was working the deal with the Ford dealership I was looking at the competition.
I test-drove a loaded Tundra, a very nice truck in my opinion, especially the New CC. It is just kind of old looking in my opinion, and severely underpowered compared to the other full size trucks.
I drove the Dodge hemi, I really like the way they look and sound, but after driving the Tundra and the F-150, the suspension felt very stiff, the seats were uncomfortable and I really just didnít have a good feeling about Dodge after all the problems I am having with my wifeís van.
I didnít drive the Chevy. I donít like the way they look.
So I was ready to sign with Ford when I read a couple comparisons on the Internet. This was the first I heard of the new Titan. I found a Nissan dealership and test drove the truck. They didnít have any Le's, but I was still blown away by the power, looks, and sound of the truck. I let them know exactly what I was looking for and they had it the next day. I was torn between the two trucks.
I liked the way both trucks look. In my eyes it was a toss up as to which looks better. I thought the interior of the Ford was plusher. But the Nissan interior was also nice. I liked the way the Nissan handeled more than the Ford, though the ford was still a comfortable ride. With the deal the Ford place was giving me the prices actually came to be about the same. So it came down to engine performance and which truck I thought fit me better.
I bought the Nissan Le CC W/Big tow and off road package.
I am only loyal to myself not Toyota, Ford, Dodge, or Nissan. Seeing As I have owned all four brands in the last year. There were several other things that affected my decision but, I bought what I thought was the best truck. The Ford does have more options to chose from (which is why I believe they one truck of the year) but the Titan had what I was looking for so there was no deal buster there. It was almost too close to call. Both trucks are beautiful and I believe both are heads and shoulders above everyone else right now. It was so close that I might have chosen the Ford if it had been a Monday instead of a Friday. Know what I mean.
If you are looking for a Good truck. Either truck will do. Definatly drive both trucks. Dont just listen to what the dealerships or Magazines or us guys on the internet are saying is the best truck. Drive them both and you will come to that decision yourself.
Good luck to all...I love trucks!
#764 of 1169 Re: A matter of personal choice and opinion. [fishnalaska]
Jul 19, 2004 (9:37 am)
great post, but i have no idea what the "vouchers" are...probably a dealership thing that they "told you" was from ford.
#765 of 1169 Re: A matter of personal choice and opinion. [fishnalaska]
Jul 19, 2004 (2:15 pm)
I think Fishnalaska's story makes one pretty good point by illustration - the race is probably between Ford & Nissan now - and the others should be more worried. Aside from the loyal following they may have, GM trucks are now very dated, Toyota needs an engine to compete and Dodge, still suffers a bit from inferior interior illness.
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Jul 21, 2004 (7:37 am)
when I bought my Ford, it was crazy how the discounts added up. $2,500 factory cash back + $1,000 was from FMCC - I financed as little as possible and then paid off the loan in one month. Then there was $500 was for owning my own business and of course the dealer discount.
I had to fight hard for the last $500 because I'm not a "licensed contrator" - I instead just registerred my business at city hall - which cost me $100.
With the exception of the FMCC cash back and the factory rebate, no one advertises the rest in their fine print. The lack of disclosure was not exactly truthful in my opionion. It was giving the dealer a way to wiggle out of what they offered in print. Had I not got what was advertised I would of walked or threatened to sue.
#768 of 1169 Re: vouchers [aspesisteve]
Jul 21, 2004 (8:13 am)
they dont have to...
they dont have to explain how they get to an advertised number, outside of standard factory rebates.
why do you care how they got to the #?
Jul 22, 2004 (9:05 am)
I don't care how they get to the number as long as they get the number that they advertise.
In my case they advertised $7,500 off MSRP with the fine print saying $2,500 was factory cash back, $1,000 FMCC cash back and the remainder dealer discount. There was no mentioning that $500 was for being a contractor. They told me that if I couldn't show them a business license that I would have to give them back $500. Truth in advertising, in my opinion, says they should have spelled it out. They didn't even mention anything about it over the phone - only near the end of the paper work.
I scrambled and got a business license, but would of screemed foul if I hadn't obtained one.