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#462 of 1169 by midnight_stang

Feb 05, 2004 (5:44 pm)

"Just to go a little further, Ford actually had the 2nd worst increase of full size truck sales in January."
 
2nd worst increase in sales? How is this bad if you already sell the most trucks? Might want to review the nature of statistics.
 
Ford 9.6% increase is 5410 trucks (based on pickuptruck.com's numbers)
Tundra's 23.7% increase is 1741 trucks
Avalanche's 65.3% increase was 2549 trucks.
 
How's that for growth? Only the Sierra and Silverado combined can surpass the F-150, in new sales vs jan 2003, not in total sales of 2004.

#463 of 1169 by biggie2

Feb 05, 2004 (8:52 pm)

10% increase year over year for a truck with the volume of the F-150 is pretty dang big. Furthermore with the lower incentives given out for the new F-150, Ford should be making a bundle on this new truck.
 
Although we still do not know what sold best, Heritage, new F-150, or F-250 and above. ANT doesnt get back untill the 10th, hopefully we will get some real numbers then.
 
My explination for the Tundra and GM trucks are these.
The Tundras new Double Cab is basically a new truck this year as well. A lot of work and money had to go into this truck to give it its four real doors. So quite possibly the increase could be due to sales of this new model. Who knows, but it is some sort of explination. Either way, a almost 30% increase year over year is amazing for an aging truck like the Tundra, i dont know how else to explain it.
 
The GM trucks have the highest incentives right now by far... And they traditionally always have. No doubt in my mind that Ford is making much more money even though GM has had more sales in January. Either way, i would say that 15% increase over last year with it being the only truck out there with such a lavish incentive base is a number i would expect.

#464 of 1169 Yawwnnn by triat

Feb 05, 2004 (9:34 pm)

All this talk about sales is laborious. The Ford guys keep saying ad infinitum the F150 is best because it's selling the most??
 
Then McDonald's is the best hamburgers, and Walmart is the best place to buy furniture and clothing.
 
No thanks, I prefer Rocky Ranch's real beef Texas Hamburger, and the local run shop for real athletic wear.

#465 of 1169 "yawn" by midnight_stang

Feb 05, 2004 (10:56 pm)

Oh great, the fast food and discount supermarket references. Next you'll be saying the import manufacturers only sell X amount of vehicles, because that's all they want to make. (That's what the Tundra guys have been saying).
 
What about DVD's at Walmart? Is there any problem with buying the same exact DVD at walmart than at Sam Goody's for 7 bucks more? Or hangers? I'm sure IKEA has the best hangers, as the simple plastic ones defintely have a hard time holding up my clothes. <sarcasm>
 
"All this talk about sales is laborious. The Ford guys keep saying ad infinitum the F150 is best because it's selling the most??"
 
And Bob Dole keeps saying he's the best because he got the most votes in the last election.
 
So let's not sidestep anymore. You know that each time a vehicle is bought, that's what the vehicle buyer wanted, unless he just had 20 to 30 grand to burn. Each purchase is a vote for what vehicle suited the person best for pricing, type of otions, or lotalty reasons. So if the "best" truck is not accurate for F-150, then it must be the most the most sought after/desired truck.

#466 of 1169 f150 is not the best by aggiemph1

Feb 05, 2004 (11:12 pm)

but its pretty damn good for most folks so they buy it....nothing to be ashamed about, one thing that ford doesn't have a problem with is giving the consumer what he/she wants. and with all the styles they offer, they can make it YOUR way. Nobody can touch ford when it comes to options on trucks. The lesson from them is use a wide net, catch a lot of fish.
 
Import manufacturers use a little different approach, the Titan is aimed at the first time truck buyer IMO, who has a family, and maybe a boat and has owned foreign cars before, in my belief

#467 of 1169 'stang by triat

Feb 06, 2004 (7:20 pm)

I have to say I agree with posters sometime ago who stated we will have a better idea of "best", and "most sought after" truck sometime down the road. In fact my contention is, considering the debate of Chev vs. Ford vs. Dodge has gone on for decades, now adding Nissan and Toyota to the mix likely will only cloud the issues more.
 
Speaking of desireability, I waited 7 weeks for a Titan,CC,SE,Util Bed Pkg to come in. At any moment I could have literally walked 3 blocks over to Ford & had my pick of some 30-40 F150's all with $4,000 discounts. It was worth the wait.
 
I don't know if you are old enough to remember, but Accord and Camry had some very humble beginnings,and with just a few dealers. If Ford & Chev use some of the loyalists' self rationalizations as on this thread, they're gonna get whooped again and on the last leg they have.

#468 of 1169 Titanic sales flop by cornellpremed

Feb 08, 2004 (10:51 am)

The Nissan guys were boasting how their truck would sell 100,000+ units this year.
 
How many was it that they managed in January again? LOL.
 
They've been rolling them out to dealerships for a while now. I'm sure sales will pickup somewhat, but not nearly as much as Nissan would hope.

#469 of 1169 As for the "what kinds of F-150's are selling" question by cornellpremed

Feb 08, 2004 (10:55 am)

I read in an article that they're highly/fully loaded versions of the new F-150. Lots of $$$ for Ford.

#470 of 1169 by nvbanker

Feb 08, 2004 (10:59 am)

I think the Titan is very good, a particularly good first effort, but two things bother me. One, is the noisy cab. The other, is long term dependability. Don't laugh, it's Japanese, but Nissan is not the class leader in reliability all the time. It rides on reputation sometimes.

#471 of 1169 nvbanker by aggiemph1

Feb 08, 2004 (4:22 pm)

I agree with post #470. I own a Nissan, and it has been a garage queen, nothing catastrophic, but for a while there it was a regular $600 trip to the shop every 2 or 3 months. Even though it has only left me stranded once (180,000 miles), I think Nissan's reputation rides on the coattails of Honda and Toyota. Another thing to consider if you are thinking about switching from domestic to import is dealership experience. I have had mostly negative dealership experiences with imports. The service at the local Nissan dealer however has been exceptional, in contrast to the last place I lived.

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