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#186 of 1169 Titan
Dec 22, 2003 (8:46 pm)
I test drove a 2WD Titan and it looks like the Titan has everything I wanted. They only had one Titan on the lot and they marked it up $4995 over MSRP.
It has much quicker acceleration around town, it had a more usable back seat in the extended cab version than the Ford, it has the factory sprayed-on bedliner, it has a better bed extender available than the Ford, it has an AUX input in the stereo (for iPod etc.) it has VSC (but only with tow package that lowers the gear ratios, cutting gas mileage further and adding engine noise at highway speed) and it has available side curtain airbags. I also heard that the Titan 4X4 can be safely driven on dry pavement in 4WD mode, whereas the Ford 4X4 will be damaged in that situation.
However, I still didn't like the Titan I drove that much. The driver's door was really annoying because it wouldn't latch unless slammed. It didn't drive as smoothly as the new F-150.
I'm going to test drive a 4WD Titan next month and see if I like the drivability better and if the drivers door problem is on all King Cab Titans.
Otherwise, I like the F-150 better and may wait to see if Ford makes side curtain airbags available in a year or two. I also want to wait and see how the first year reliability goes anyway.
The crew cab F-150 with the short 5.5 ft bed would probably work for me if side curtain airbags become available for 2005 or 2006.
Dec 22, 2003 (11:35 pm)
I would like to Congratulate again the F-150, who was just awarded Truck of the Year, this time by Truckin' Magazine.
#188 of 1169 I would like a Nissan
Dec 23, 2003 (6:04 pm)
salesman or rep or something like that to explain to me the sense in having a 3.36 gear ratio that is OPTIONAL and comes with the towing or off road packages. No wonder the thing drives like a car. I would be willing to bet that it would feel a lot less peppy with a 4000lb load behind it -- thats when the gear ratio is really gonna lead to "bogged down" feel. Has anyone really loaded one down yet? Are there any comparos out there with towing tests? Not knocking the truck, just thinkin out loud -- they are starting to grow on me, except for this.
#189 of 1169 Ford Slow Acceleration
Dec 23, 2003 (6:27 pm)
I wonder if they upgrade the transmission to a 5-speed automatic in the future, if that would take care of it being so sluggish? Lower first few gears will give better acceleration off the line and improve passing performance and the higher top gearwould give better fuel economy at the same time.
Maybe the V10 and a 5-speed auto would give good performance and the overdrive 5th gear would still allow decent highway mileage.
I still can't believe how slow it is with 300HP on tap. 300 horsepower SHOULD be more than enough, but it sure doesn't feel like it. Bad fuel economy and bad performance in the same vehicle sucks. Pick one, not both.
They could also think about a turbo diesel or hybrids like GM is doing with their 2007 Chevy pickups. The Chevy Silverado and Tahoe hybrids will have both better power and better fuel economy, but they are 4 years away.
Dec 23, 2003 (8:09 pm)
Want a fast Truck? F-150 Lightining, or Dodge Ram SRT if speed is a priority
#191 of 1169 I'm surprised
Dec 23, 2003 (8:44 pm)
when folks are disappointed with F150 acceleration. It has 300hp; but it's lugging 5,300lbs with a sluggish 4 spd transmission. According to this site, the 2004 F150 now weighs within 500lbs of the F250 superduty!
The Titan not only weighs less, the Titan's 5 speed transmission,drivetrain, and engine were all designed & tuned as a package. I think Nissan struck a nice and refreshing balance between horsepower,everyday driving,acceleration & torque or towing.
Then there is the brakes issue. F150's nemesis. According to I believe the PM test, the F150 brakes are weak again(?).
#192 of 1169 Almost all the F150's I've seen
Dec 23, 2003 (8:52 pm)
to date have been tu-tone. And they looked pretty good, especially from the front.
However today in a parking lot I saw a plain red F150. It didn't look nice. With the high beltline & small windows, from the side it looked like, dare I say, a Chev Express Van but missing the quarter windows. With the F150's proportions, now I know why I've seen so many tu-tones. That's a lot of sheet metal on the sides Ford has to distract the eyes from.
Dec 24, 2003 (6:35 am)
I will say this new F-150 seems to have hit a sweet spot with the public. For the short time that they've been on the market, I see them everywhere. Just yesterday, while out driving I saw 3 on the road within 5 minutes, all crew cabs!
Dec 24, 2003 (11:31 am)
I've seen about 4 on the road so far. But I expect to see tons in about 3-6 months. Same as the new Expidtion and New Explorers.
Dec 26, 2003 (2:13 pm)
Just test drove 04 F-150 4x2 regular cab with the 4.6L v8. I was supprised at how underpowered it felt. I currently have a 95 Toyota T100 6cylinder which feels much lighter and quicker. I am looking for a second work truck so it is between the Tundra & the F-150. I liked the overall feel of the F-150 (very smooth) and the little extra room behind the seats that is now standard is a plus for me.