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Nissan Titan, Ford F-150, Exterior, Engine, Interior, Transmission, Truck
#1120 of 1169 i think...
Jan 05, 2005 (8:12 am)
they got to almost 90k. impressive with the slow start they had.
Jan 05, 2005 (11:44 am)
That's pretty good for an entirely new truck. Shows that Nissan did their homework before they entered the market, regardless of the few production jitters they encountered.
That's absolutely incredible, Ant. I find it unbelievable that so many entered the roadways in one year. If you estimate an average length of 20' per rig, that's around 3,500 miles of back-to-back Ford pickups. Yikes.
I wonder what the national average is for length-of-ownership on trucks? Most of the folks I know usually keep their trucks for 10+ years unless they have some glaring problem with them that they cannot handle, as opposed to about 6 years for their cars/small suvs.
#1122 of 1169 Re: [xwesx]
Jan 05, 2005 (12:40 pm)
heavy or super duty trucks have a long ownership average, especially diesels.
but simple 1/4 or 1/2 ton trucks are not much different from passenger cars when it comes to trade cycle...generally between 27 and 39 months.
#1123 of 1169 Re: [dbauer]
Jan 05, 2005 (4:24 pm)
Seriously? Haha.... I guess that explains why the salespeople to whom I spoke when I was looking for my last car thought I was crazy when I said, "I want my vehicle to reliably go 10 years as a primary vehicle." My '96 Subaru is approaching the 10 year mark here in another 8 months and I'll probably end up having it another 3 years or more as my primary. And, that's at 20+K per year. If I drove it at 12-15K annually, I'd expect to get another 5 or more out of it pretty easy.
I cannot see how purchasing a vehicle is a good investment if you only hang on to it for 3 years or less.
Jan 05, 2005 (7:52 pm)
"Shows that Nissan did their homework before they entered the market,"
They sure did xwesx, they shamelessly copied the new F-150 from bumper to bumper! But so did Toyota on the first Tundra, and why not, it's the Gold Standard evidently.
#1125 of 1169 Titan sales
Jan 05, 2005 (8:32 pm)
Unconfirmed Titan sales for 2004 are 83,848.
#1126 of 1169 Re: [nvbanker]
Jan 06, 2005 (11:08 am)
Imitation is the best form of flattery! And, I don't see how Toyota could have possibly copied Ford with the T100, that truck isn't half the truck (okay, so maybe 3/4! haha) of a same-model-year F150.
And, I suppose it is just yet another opinion out there, but the Titan is most certainly distinct and separate from an F150. Both manufactures departed, quite blessedly, from the trend toward soft, sleek looks (as did Chevrolet to some extent, but I think their aesthetic quality took a nose dive because of it - pun intended). However, if you take a look at the Titan, it follows the same general trend as the rest of Nissan's products in appearance. I personally like the appearance of the Ford better, but I'd buy neither because I need a truck to really work and a 1/2 ton just can't cut the mustard. If I were to consider them at all for some off reason, I'd do so equally because folks on both sides of the fence have laid forth good pros and cons. Other similarities, like bed and interior dimensions, should be similar because Ford knows how to make a functional pickup, so why should Nissan try to buck a system that is obviously what the consumer wants and has wanted for decades? They aren't trying to make a specialty vehicle that will appeal to a small market....
Jan 06, 2005 (8:44 pm)
No, you're right on that one, I don't know what the T-100 was trying to be, but rugged, it was not. Still, it was a long lasting, if wimpy and softly sprung truck. It resembled an El Camino in handling and size. They are still running around, mostly doing pools in this area...... Very light duty.
#1128 of 1169 Re: T-100 [nvbanker]
Jan 07, 2005 (10:47 am)
Ah, I actually mis-interpreted you on your "Tundra" post. I guess I do not look at the Tundra as being a new introduction as it was really just a model rebuild/makeover to salvage market share after the T100 introduction. To me, it was like deciding to call their compact pickup a "Tacoma" rather than just being a generic Toyota pickup. I'm sure the modifications were much deeper on the T100-to-Tundra makeover, but it's all about perception and mine didn't change. So, when you said "introduced...Tundra," I interpreted it as the first introduction, i.e., T100. *shrugs*
Anyhow, enough of Toyota, this is about Nissan and Ford. My apologies for the detour all.