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#1280 of 1450 Re: Radio, & Antenna [mikdee]
Jun 25, 2006 (4:52 am)
Does anyone have any information regarding the 2007 Tucson? Particularly I am interested in statistics relating to the 2.7L engine. Hyundai claims that the engine is "all-new" and "redesigned", yielding more horsepower and torque while increasing efficiency.
I currently own a 2002 Santa FE GLS 2.7L AWD and looking to possibly trade in the very near future. Gas mileage in it has been acceptable, given that it is an AWD SUV. I generally average around 21 MPG in everyday driving. More impressively I have managed 26.5 MPG on the interstate cruising at 65-70 MPH with the A/C running on low.
From what I have read from other postings, the current Tucson powertrain would actually yield lower figures. I currently have a VERY GOOD deal worked out for a 2006 Santa Fe GLS 3.5L AWD. My only hesitation in finalizing the deal is the gas mileage. I am not sure how much of an impact this chassis will have on gas mileage. Also there is a lingering thought as to what the new powertrain in the 2007 Tucson might offer. If it were to offer significant improvement then I would likely opt to wait and buy it. Unfortunately Hyundai is not exactly forthcoming with any details and the dealership is more interested in moving what they have now.
#1281 of 1450 Re: Radio, & Antenna [vegito1971]
Jun 26, 2006 (5:33 am)
What about a 2007 Santa-Fe?
#1282 of 1450 Re: 2007 Tucson Question [guyfr]
Jun 26, 2006 (4:41 pm)
I just think that the 2007 Santa Fe tends to blend in too much with the new Toyota Rav 4 and soon-to-be-released Honda CRV. The body style has lost its distinction from the other clones. Also I am not nuts about the luxury-themed interior and 18-inch wheels on SE and Limited models.
Preliminary pricing puts the Santa Fe SE AWD in the neighborhood of $25,695. Though this is on par with the 2006 model, it is likely that the incentives will be deeply cut back as with other all-new Hyundai models.
I am not really against the 2007 Santa Fe, I am just not overly-impressed with it either. I will admit that the powertrain has improved substantially in all categories though, based on preliminary reports.
Right now I have a 2002 Santa Fe GLS 2.7L AWD. According to the books trade value is somewhere from $9,500 to $10,000. The dealership is offering me $11,000. The 2006 GLS 3.5L AWD with moonroof is sticker-priced at $25,930. The dealership is offering to sell it to me for $20,000 after the $3,000 incentive and $1,000 loyalty rebates. This yields a $9,000 difference plus TTL, bringing the bottom line to $9,986.
I think that the Tucson is highly resemblant of the 2001-2006 Santa Fe body, only slightly down-sized. But I have also found that several postings on here complain about the gas mileage. They claim 20-22 MPG city and 21-23 MPG highway. I can only assume that Hyundai tried to offset shortcomings of the engine's power by changing the gearing in the transmission. This might improve acceleration off the line but kills the upper-end performance. This tends to turn me off to the Tucson since I can expect similar or slightly better numbers from the 2006 Santa Fe 3.5L AWD. However I am quite curious as to the impact of the newly-redesigned 2.7L engine being introduced in the 2007 Tucson. If it could yield better numbers all-around, then I would opt to wait for its arrival. Unfortunately Hyundai is not forth-coming with these numbers and nobody else really seems to know either.
#1283 of 1450 Re: Radio, & Antenna [vegito1971]
Jun 27, 2006 (7:41 am)
I owned both a 2.7 liter 4WD and a 3.5 4WD Santa Fe. For what is worth my own experiences say the 3.5 got slightly... 1 to 1.5 mpg... better highway mileage (but neither got your high of 26mpg) than the 2.7 due to the fact it has a 5 speed automatic verses the 4 speed on the 2.7. This translates to a bit more than 600 rpm less at any given road speed so the engine is running slower. Also, the 3.5 had the tendency to downshift less on hilly terrain due to the fact it has much more torque. However city mileage was somewhat less on the 3.5 where neither torque or the 5 speed comes into play that much.
Your may be confusing the 2007 Santa Fe for the 2007 Tucson when you say the engine is all new because the 3.3 liter in the redesigned Santa Fe is relatively new. It is the same as used on the current Sonata and IS a new size/design. I don't think Hyundai has plans to completely redo the 2.7 but I think they recently added variable valve timing. This, in my opinion, isn't a particularly fuel efficient engine for its size..we are talking about the 2.7 liter.
#1284 of 1450 Re: Radio, & Antenna [targettuning]
Jun 27, 2006 (7:50 pm)
Are you saying that neither the 3.5L nor the 2.7L engines are very efficient? My 2.7L AWD seems to do alright but I would not boast about it though. It just seems somewhat sluggish in responsiveness, hence the interest in the 3.5L version. But with the trend in gas prices I surely do not want to be looking backwards in terms of gas mileage. If the 3.5L was pretty much on par with what I have now then I would be somewhat satisfied.
This is what sparks my interest in the 2007 Tucson. I may have been wrong in my wording regarding the 2.7L engine overhaul. I now realize that the introduction of CVVT was a definite and only assumed a re-work of the rest to go along. The CVVT would result in a better power curve but I am not sure how this translates into real-world performance. Would this add the much-needed power and negate the need for gearing the transmission up to offset deficiencies of the engine? And how would this impact the gas mileage ratings if everything else (including the transmission) remain the same?
Perhaps this is ultimately a choice between the lesser of two bads. The EPA ratings for the 2006 Tucson seem pretty well in line with the 2006 Santa Fe 2.7L. However several owners on here claim otherwise. Can anyone offer some real good advice and shed some light?
My current Santa Fe is stock aside from the K & N Air Filter. All scheduled maintenance has been performed as prescribed. I strictly use Mobil 1 Full Synthetic 5W30 Oil with the Mobil 1 Filter and Slick 50 at prescribed intervals. Perhaps this might play a small role in my
gas mileage figures. But I have a co-worker who owns a 2004 Santa Fe 3.5L FWD and claims 18-21 MPG city and 27 MPG highway (vacation trips).
#1285 of 1450 Re: Radio, & Antenna [vegito1971]
Jun 28, 2006 (7:35 am)
Yes, I believe neither engine is particularly efficient but the difference in mileage I attributed to the 5 speed auto and greater torque of the 3.5 liter. The 3.5 is a rocket compared to the 2.7 ...much quicker. I have to preface all fuel economy discussions on these and all SUV's with my opinion that none are great..some are better than others but none are Honda Civics and if you can be personally be satisfied with 16- to about 23 you should be pleased. Once again, I am not going to directly dispute people who claim to get what I consider to be fantistic fuel economy...got in trouble with the site...but I have owned both the 3.5 and 2.7 and the 3.5 got about 14..or 15 in winter in stop/go and somewhat better in summer with a high of about 24 on at least one highway trip in summer. I did not expect better so I was OK with those numbers. Finally, I find the Tucson to be directly in line with the 2.7 Santa Fe..it is not much smaller..not much lighter and uses the same drivetrain as the 2.7 SF so don't expect a whole lot better economy.
#1286 of 1450 2005 Tucson GL 2.0 Manual mileage.
Jun 28, 2006 (2:05 pm)
I have a 2005 Tucson GL 5 speed manual that uses petrol that I bought new in February. It has about 4500 miles on it at this time and I have been keeping track of the mileage between fill-ups for about a month now. I don't top off each time I fill her up and have tried using the exact same gas pump for each fill-up as much as humanly possible. I have been getting about 25 mpg city driving using the A/C and around 30 mpg when it's mostly highway driving and often cracking the windows and turning off the A/C. I try to avoid sudden stops, creep up to stoplights and don't gun the gas when I'm taking off from complete stops and use cruise control as much as possible. This seems suspiciously better than what a lot of other people have been reporting with their Tucson. Is anyone else with a manual GL getting similar readings?
#1287 of 1450 Re: 2005 Tucson GL 2.0 Manual mileage. [conjett]
Jun 29, 2006 (7:31 am)
Most others have 4WD V-6 models and I am real sure there are probably 8 or 9 of those sold (in the USA and Canada anyhow) for every FWD 4 cylinder 5 speed manual transmission car so fuel economy with yours IS better than most reporting here. Plus it seems you go to extraordinary lengths to maximize economy...using the same pump...turning off the AC...avoiding sudden stops etc. Most just drive on...full speed ahead, damn the torpedos.
#1289 of 1450 Re: New Hyundai commercial [azera25]
Jun 29, 2006 (5:36 pm)
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