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Hyundai Tucson, SUV
#1164 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 10, 2006 (6:06 am)
You too are about to be "targeted". I don't have to convince anybody about Hyundai being "not that bad" mainly because THEY AREN'T. I have, or have had three personally (2002 Santa FE, 2003 Santa Fe, 2005 Tucson) and both my daughter AND son also have one (2000 Elantra, 2003 Elantra) as does my sister (2004 Elantra) And now I am going to proceed to rip you too. So then, your beef is that you get about 19 MPG in town and you consider this poor for an SUV? I would recommend checking the various owner sites for the Honda CR-V and the Toyota RAV-4 and then throw out the obvious lies (30 MPG in town) type thing and you will see as I have that both get far less than the EPA estimates and only may get a couple MPG, if that, better. I have also acknowledged that Hyundai does lack a certain amount technical sophistication as compared to both Honda and Toyota...but at thousands $$$ less model for model Hyundai does well. They are steadily improving.
Who says the dealer can't or won't fix problems? You? or a handfull of disgruntled persons who post on these sites? For every 10 who complain here there are thousands who get things fixed promptly, correctly, AND under warranty if it applies.
They use the cheapest OEM tires?? worse than the Firestones Ford used on the Exploders oops Explorers, you know, the ones that blew out causing roll-overs?? Michelin is used on many or most of the line up and if you can name another manufacturer aside from some premium brand car maker that uses these across the range of models well, go ahead name them. Oh yeah, if you get a flat in your Ford..GM..Honda...Toyota..Chrysler...BMW...Subaru..etc. etc. ad nauseum, and open the glovebox you will find a small warranty brochure from the tire manufacturer who provides their own warranty for the tires...if you do not understand, simply put...Hyundai does NOT warranty the tires, nobody in the auto manufacturing industry does.
Obviously you do not like research because if you did any you would hardly be able to miss all the awards, not lightly given, to various Hyundai models for, WHAT? quality, value,consumer best buys, check rated models from WHO? Consumers Reports, and various other consumer magazines, Automobile clubs, JD Powers (where Hyundai is in the top 3, I believe and tied with WHO? Honda) and assorted other car oriented magazines. Simply put, in spite of what you would like to believe and have others believe, Hyundai has quickly overtaken all domestic manufacturers and is hot on Honda/Toyota's heels. With the increasing public perception that Hyundai is indeed a quality car comes increasing resale value. As it stands now resale value has surpassed many domestic models, again model for model
Oh, I took your advice (and Consumers Reports) and bought a 2006 Civic in November I liked the body style better than the 5 year old design of the current Elantra and the rental car blandness of the Corolla..I also paid $19,600 and I am here to tell you that for the same money I could (and should) have bought a nice top line Sonata which has far more standard equipment, much greater interior and trunk room. More car for the money in all measures. Sure the Civic gets good fuel economy and sure that is important but I am NOT "very glad that I paid the couple extra grand" for this supposed automobile ICON. If you think it has been perfect you are wrong
#1165 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 10, 2006 (6:29 am)
Consumer reports was correct with the much worse than average rating of the Tucson
If you look closely at that CR "reliability" rating, you would surely question how they arrived at their rating. If you look at each and every reported metric that supposedly goes into their reliability rating, each individual rating is no worse than average and most are above average to excellent! So how do you go from those scores to below average?
A number of e-mails and letters from Tucson owners (from a few other forums I visit) to CR have still gone unanswered! And I must tell you that I am the proud owner of an extremely trouble-free, reliable 2005 Tucson LX 2.7L V6 AWD and I get the same gas mileage you get with your 2.0L I4. Maybe you should have popped for the V6?
#1166 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [reechz]
Apr 10, 2006 (9:54 pm)
See what I mean. Some have just bought themselves into a low quality vehicle and refuse not only to admit it, but flame anyone who can. The most frequent posters go as far as telling you there's nothing wrong with your vehicle. Some may have gotten a good build by accident, I don't doubt that. Look for yourself, talk to owners in person and I think you'll find that low quality is a common theme, even given the already low price. Its too bad some of these forums have been taken over by those who constantly post every day telling others what to think about their vehicles.
#1167 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 11, 2006 (4:10 am)
Bah...I am one of the most vocal Hyundai supporters and I suppose you are refering to me. However, I refuse to admit to something that simply isn't true..Hyundai isn't a "low quality vehicle" and if you believe it to be true go find an automotive "icon" to blow your extra couple of grand on. I am not "flaming" you or anybody else but I AM pointing out that sites like these are visited by owners of "automotive icons" who like to point out how bad other makes are but have never even sat in a Hyundai. I have personally had 3 and, as I said, immediate family members own 3 additional and Guess What!!!! They all are reliable vehicles that are no worse than any "automotive icon". "Talk to owners in person and I think you'll find low quality ia a common theme" Rubbish..talk to me, my son, my daughter, my sister, two..no three co-workers: who own 3 Santa Fe's and an Elantra driven by a person who drives 120 miles round trip to work daily and has over 45K miles on his 2004 already with no, read that... NO... problems and liked the Elantra so much he bought one of the above Santa Fe's. Another of the Santa Fe owners drives a little over 60 miles a day and has accumulated 100K miles on his 2002 4 cylinder FWD with..you guessed it..NO problems!! My son's 2000 Elantra has around 140K miles and oops he had a problem..new front brake rotors and pads a few times and rear wheel brake cylinders and brake shoes at about 110K miles. You can talk trash about Hyundai as much as you care to but given the experiences I personally have had with the brand you WILL not find me doing so. Further, I do not tell others what to think but I like to believe I am a counter weight to the rubbish posted by people who probably don't even own one. And if you do happen to own one and don't like it do the American thing express your freedom of choice and buy something else.
#1168 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 11, 2006 (4:14 am)
I really don't know how to properly answer your way off base comments. I could sit here all morning and tell you about my trouble-free Tucson, my wife's trouble-free 04 Sonata LX, my sister's trouble free Tucson, her 97 Accent, my co-workers' various years' trouble-free Sonatas and Elantras. Or I could sit here and say that you may be the exception rather than the rule regarding Hyundai quality. I could, but I won't because I think most reasonable people can read and do the research and find out your comments and observations ARE the exception, not the norm. If that is flaming you, sorry. I just thought I was telling the truth. By the way, I have owned numerous vehicles in my life, Fords, Mercs, Chryslers, Chevys, Volkswagens, and the 2 Hyundais I currently own are the best built and most trouble-free of all that I have owned.
#1169 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [tenpin288]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Apr 11, 2006 (5:44 am)
"Edmunds.com's visitors are encouraged to submit reviews of vehicles as well. Every Hyundai vehicle has received a consumer rating of 9.0 or greater on the quantitative scale where ten is the highest possible score."
Looking at the Consumer Review link at the top of this discussion, the '05 Tucson is pulling a 9.2 score from owners. You have to drill "up" to get '06 numbers, but they are currently at 9.2 also.
#1170 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 11, 2006 (9:46 am)
I am sorry to hear that you have problems with your Tucson (assuming that you have one). Equally, I have had some problems as well with my Tucson (V6, LX). All this minor problems were solved by my dealer. If you are not satisfied with your dealer you always can send an email to Hyundai USA and they will phone the dealer to do the job you are requesting.
I had a Honda Civic Coupe before for 3 years and after 6 months a rattle noise appeared and 2 spot corrosion were noticeable in one of the doors. The rattle was never eliminated and the spots were re painted by the dealer (car was under warranty).
It is OK to say that the internal finishes of the Civic were, I will say better quality that my Tucson, that needs to be improved.
I bought this Tucson to give it a hard work, why should I need a fantastic interior if I going to enter the car with shoes full of mud. When I am in the country side I need a responsive engine and the Tucson is good in this.
I was not prepared to give away another 2K dollars just because the internal plastic was better. This car solve all my needs and before I bought it I did my research.
If your dealer doesn't want to do the job you want, you still can ask to talk with the big boss (manager). Hyundai is interested to show its customers that the they care for new Hyundai owners. I don't understand why you could not have the type of service I got from Hyundai dealers in California, and Boston, Mas.
I look after my Tucson carefully, but I will wish that the under frame were more protected and the floor clearance increased, and the external paint is pealing in some places. I love my Tucson and it is very bad you have had problems with your Tucson. Fortunately, you could use your Tucson as part exchange and buy a CR-V Honda. I can just say that you have had a very bad luck and wish the best in your next purchase.
#1171 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [tenpin288]
Apr 11, 2006 (6:09 pm)
Its obvious when people don't have a good point that they ignore all the bad info and selectively choose the good. I never said anyone didn't have a good experience with their personal vehicle, you might have. On the contrary, there are several here who attack anyone who would question their godly opinion of this manufacturer. Hyundai does have the highest depreciation of about any car maker out there, just a simple fact, that low resale value is due to low quality and little demand for their used cars. Odd how nobody brings that up. Edmunds Editor's rate the Tucson only an 8.0, thats a little different from 9.2, thats the bigger picture. Funny how that wasn't mentioned. The anti CR conspiracy theorists here blame the only unbiased report on vehicles as being....well ask them for the complete conspiracy. The small group of people here who rant and rave like radicals every time some one posts the truth about their experiences, should take the Honda, Toyota, GM and whatever bashing some place else. You do nobody on this board any service at all except discourage people from asking questions and posting their experiences for fear of your attacks.
#1172 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 11, 2006 (6:36 pm)
Hyundai does have the highest depreciation of about any car maker out there, just a simple fact, that low resale value is due to low quality and little demand for their used cars.
Interesting...check this out: link title
Looks like the Accent is the only Hyundai in that list, and it's not even close to #1!
Also, directly from Edmunds, Yay! : link title
Guess what? No Hyundai's there!! Yay!
I backed up my points with factual information!
Sorry about your bad experience. My '05 Elantra is trouble free and doing great. I'm also considering buying a new Tucson or Sonata.
#1173 of 1450 Re: thinking of buying a 4 cyl tuscon [flytedhy]
Apr 11, 2006 (7:02 pm)
You do nobody on this board any service at all except discourage people from asking questions and posting their experiences for fear of your attacks.
I am not sure how I attacked you. All I did was provide my own personal experiences (like you), question how CR's rating could show all average to above average to excellent individual ratings and then come up with a below average reliability rating (the whole is less than the sum of the parts?), and point out that the positive experiences, ratings, and reviews of the Tucson far outweigh the negatives. All the info I mentioned can be verified or read in print or on other websites.
I have no doubt that you have some problems with your Tucson. It can happen to anyone and any make or model, even Honda and Toyota. If you can't get your dealer to address your problems, try another dealership. If that fails, you have a few other choices: Accept it and live with it, or trade it in for a Honyota. Just some common sense advice and plain facts from me, no specious arguments or tirades. If my prior posts offended you, please let me apologize.