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Re: dealer and i are $500 apart-whats next? [lablover2] by deltheking
May 06, 2009 (6:35 am)
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Replying to: lablover2 (May 05, 2009 11:44 am)

It all depends on what u are trading in to actually know how much u are paying for the Highlander.
But if u are getting decent value for your trade,then,I would say just go ahead and buy it.
A low mileage Toyota,superb reliability,,go ahead and pay the extra 500 as this will serve u a long time.
Not worth thinking too much on 500--Yes if it was 1000 or more ,,yes think more.
But again your trade and the actual price of the Highlander are the info we need to know for an accurate opinion.
Just MHO.
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Re: dealer and i are $500 apart-whats next? [lablover2] by jipster
May 06, 2009 (12:23 pm)
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Replying to: lablover2 (May 05, 2009 11:44 am)

but am not in love with it.
 
Good choice... if you're not in love you're not in love. No sense paying $500 more than what you think a car is worth.
 
I test drove the Highlander back in 04. It was nice... but I didn't love it. It probably didn't love me either. Ended up buying a Mazda MPV... love it!
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Has anyone used legal representation to purchase a used vehicle? by flightsimmer
May 10, 2009 (8:45 am)
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Hi
I live in Pennsylvania, which has weak protection for the used car purchaser. In my opinion, "buyer beware" are the 2 dirtiest words in the English language, but I digress. I recently saw a 1995 Toyota Avalon at a local used car dealer. Car looks OK superficially, but not only are the warranties this dealer offers a joke (and the dealer might try to sell this vehicle "as is" because of age), but--HE WON'T ALLOW ME TO TAKE IT TO A MECHANIC. I have to bring the mechanic TO HIS DEALERSHIP. Question, do you think it would be worthwhile for me to bring a qualified lawyer skilled in consumer affairs to do the negotiation for me? Laypeople are generally intimidated by laywers; who knows, this person might not only be able to find a loophole to compel this jerk into letting me take the car to my own mechanic, but might even be able to get me a real warranty (I'd love a 24month/24K bumper to bumper) Any opinions?
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Re: Has anyone used legal representation to purchase a used vehicle? [flightsimmer] by jipster
May 11, 2009 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: flightsimmer (May 10, 2009 8:45 am)

Question, do you think it would be worthwhile for me to bring a qualified lawyer skilled in consumer affairs to do the negotiation for me?
 
No, it won't be worthwhile. A lawyer, a mechanic, and a 2 year bumper to bumper warranty on a 14 year old car? I'd suggest just test driving the car and inspecting it youself, or get one of those mobile car inspectors to check it out at dealership, probably around $140.
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Re: Has anyone used legal representation to purchase a used vehicle? [flightsimmer] by kirstie_h HOST
May 11, 2009 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: flightsimmer (May 10, 2009 8:45 am)

Think about it from a totally skeptical perspective: You take the car to your mechanic. Your mechanic messes with some stuff, disconnects stuff, and you bring it back and claim it's got all of these problems in an attempt to negotiate a lower price. He's then forced to sell the damaged vehicle to you at a lower price, or keep the now damaged vehicle.
 
He has no more reason to believe that you're trustworthy than you have to believe he's trustworthy.
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Re: Has anyone used legal representation to purchase a used vehicle? by jeffyscott
May 11, 2009 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: kirstie_h (May 11, 2009 11:35 am)

I've never had a dealer not allow the car to be taken to another mechanic. I never actually have done this, but have asked a few times.
 
Does the dealer say why?
 
How much can a car this old be worth anyway? Seems like a lot of worrying over a (presumably) fairly small amount of money.
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Re: Has anyone used legal representation to purchase a used vehicle? [jipster] by dtownfb
May 12, 2009 (9:54 am)
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Replying to: jipster (May 11, 2009 5:16 am)

I think the OP needs to set their sights a bit lower when trying to purchase a 14 year old vehicle. I've seen dealers offer a 3 month/3000 miles powertrain warranty on vehicles like this. A car 24 month bumper to bumper is a bit unrealistic. Not unless they want to pay $15,000 for this car.
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Re: Has anyone used legal representation to purchase a used vehicle? [flightsimmer] by joel0622
May 15, 2009 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: flightsimmer (May 10, 2009 8:45 am)

You are kidding right?? You are not actually considering bringing a lawyer with you to buy a car are you? Only a fool would offer you a two year warranty on a 14 year old car.
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how much I should pay for 2008 Hyundai Santa Fe by epec
May 31, 2009 (2:04 pm)
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Like on in dealer's lot, 2008 Santa Fe GLS AWD, 11k miles, pre-rental, with sun roof, ask for 18,990, can I get it twith 16,000? another is same GLS AWD, 2008, 18k miles on it, no sun roof, ask for 18,990. I would like to pay 15000 for it. Is it reasonable?
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Is this car safe to buy? by jijinggre
Jun 04, 2009 (8:16 pm)
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Hi , I am trying to get a bigger sedan for my coming baby and interested in a Camry listed on Craigslist. After meeting the seller, i found it very complicated.
 
The seller showed me two paper work. One is something like"small estate affidavit " and the other is the title with signature of "J P Morgan Chase bank ". The seller told me that the previous owner is dead and the car is liquidated by Chase who is the executor of the owner's will. He is selling the car for the bank. ( He has a company to do the house clean work for the bank and has nothing to do with the previous owner.)
 
Yes, it sounds very suspicious to me in the first place because his name is not on any of those paperwork. It is also the first time i heard of "small estate sale". Here are the things i have done:
 
1. I asked him to give me the contact in JP Morgan chase bank and I called. The guy works in the bank confirmed that the seller got this car from the bank liquidation.
 
2. I called the corporate number i got from Chase.com and comfirmed that the number and contact were all correct. The contact does work for Chase and it was his office number.
 
3. I checked Carfax and it is a clean title with no lien, no accident and no issue. One owner only.
 
4. I called DMV twice to tell them the story, The first gentlemen suggested me to walk away due to th complexity. The second lady suggested me to ask the seller to bring the document to DMV together with me.
 
5. I called the seller and he is willing to do so.
 
So, on one hand, it is so complicated that makes it very suspicious. On the other hand, the car is in good shape and price and i don't want to miss a good deal.
 
My question is: if we present the paperwork to DMV and we successfully transfer the title to me in DMV, does it mean this transaction is legal and i am out of risk?
 
If not, what else i can do to minimize any potential risk?
 
Thanks a lot!

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