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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [steve322] by lmjm
May 02, 2006 (8:47 pm)
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Replying to: steve322 (May 02, 2006 9:35 am)

At one point, a dealer said they could only provide financing to diplomats and people in the military. Then later he changed his mind and said he didn't know that it is for everyone.
 
But...you're actually lucky that you did not get financing. As mentioned before, one dealer refused to give me financing info unless I would first pay a $1,000 deposit. Today I found out from another dealer why: even with an excellent credit score the GMAC financing for the Saab European Delivery is fixed at 9.2%. Yup, after less than 2 years of payments, Saab would have recoverd not only what you saved on ED but also a lot more and the car would actually cost a couple thousand MORE than buying from dealer stock. True, nice vacation and all of that plus opportunity to drive your car in Europe but also a very very very long wait (order to pick up as well as drop off to arrival in U.S.) for a more expensive car....
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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [lmjm] by dino001
May 09, 2006 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: lmjm (May 02, 2006 8:47 pm)

Wow, the financing part is tough, cause nobody else would accept to pony up money for an untitled vehicle. So, they can get you when you think you're done. 9.2 percent is a nice rate, indeed
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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [dino001] by georgek
May 09, 2006 (11:38 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (May 09, 2006 9:58 am)

You may want to find a new bank. Both my bank and my credit union were willing to finance delivery in Trollhattan as long as I could give them a VIN number.
 
The $1000 deposit is required by SAAB USA to confirm the order.
 
I ended-up buying the car here because the military/diplomatic price is about the same, net, as taking delivery in Sweden.
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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [georgek] by fwulfers
May 12, 2006 (8:52 am)
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Replying to: georgek (May 09, 2006 11:38 am)

My dealer in southern California is great, the process has been very easy so far. I financed through Capital One and there were no problems. Well, I know for sure when I pick up my car in Trollhattan next monday . I would suggest finding an honest dealer that isn't pushy. I have a blog about my experience with the IDS program, check it out when you want more details. http://wulfers.net/saab/index.html
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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [georgek] by saablcp
May 13, 2006 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: georgek (May 09, 2006 11:38 am)

I have never encountered a finance organization of any type,bank or credit union,that would do a conventional car loan on a European delivery.The car is the collateral on the note and as such the title must be encumbered .The lien can not be executed until the title is issued which will not happen until the car is registered in the owners state of residence.Payment in full is required by Saab 30 days before delivery and the car does not arrive at the U.S.dealer for app.another 6-8 weeks after delivery,so you have a period of anywhere from app 90-120 days where the finance co. has no collaterall.I think you better get a clarification on this.S.F.S.C briefly (less than a year)offered Euro-delivery financing but with the advent of G.M.A.C. no provision exists at this time.
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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [fwulfers] by biancar
May 13, 2006 (9:09 pm)
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Replying to: fwulfers (May 12, 2006 8:52 am)

(off topic) Just wanted to say I checked out your website and loved your pictures of Michigan and of your "girls!" Are you from the U.P.? I spent a good part of my childhood, as well a few recent visits, there as my grandparents and other relatives lived way up in the Keewanau. "God's own country" once we crossed the straits (and that was by ferry when I was a small child - I actually got to watch "Mighty Mac" being built in the mid-50's.) Anyway, you've captured some lovely pictures of the area. Well done.
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re: Problems with Saab Euro delivery 2006 [biancar] by fwulfers
Jun 07, 2006 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: biancar (May 13, 2006 9:09 pm)

I have lived in Michigan for the last 12 years (last 4 in NW Michigan) but recently moved to CA. I spent a lot of time in the U.P. as well, there is just something about that place that makes you want to go back. I miss the northern part of Michigan already, especially in summer time. The winters, however, won't be missed here in sunny CA..
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Saab IDS experience by kmaj
Jul 04, 2006 (11:05 am)
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I purchased a convertible through the IDS program and picked it up at the factory in Sweden. I dropped it off at a Saab authorized drop-off agent on Jan 31, 2006 and paid an extra $540 for the drop off service. As of today July 4, 2006 (OVER FIVE MONTHS LATER) I still don't have my car. It was "lost" for a period of time and then several weeks later when it was "found" I was told that it was damaged in shipment. The drop-off agent gave me the wrong paperwork when I dropped off the car and Saab and it's insurers have been haggling over the paperwork while keeping my car hostage. After over 5 months I decided the IDS program reps weren't getting this resolved so I tried to contact the head of Saab US. My call was returned by a customer service rep who acted like I was calling about a defective battery. She never once offered to help me solve the problem and kept saying I had to work with the IDS department. Then I faxed a letter to the CEO of GM and finally persuaded a sympathetic operator to let me talked to one of the executives assistants. She was about to blow me off as well when I got her to agree to just listen to my story. Appears that she's gotten someone to help me and I may get my car released within a week. Apparently this is a regular event since Saab's insurer has stated that it has happened with some frequency that cars are damaged and that customers are given improper paperwork by authorized drop-off agents. So don't believe the quoted 6 to 8 week US delivery.
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Re: Saab IDS experience [kmaj] by toner
Jul 31, 2006 (8:29 am)
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Replying to: kmaj (Jul 04, 2006 11:05 am)

I am still waiting for my car here in CA, and have been wondering if it is due to damage. Saab IDS and dealer cannot (or will not) tell me what is going on, where car is, etc. I suggest that you post this experience on the Saab Net bulleting board at www.saabnet.com, where many discussions on Saab experiences take place. Have they resolved this problem to your satisfaction?
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Saab ED information by 530ir1150r
Sep 16, 2006 (5:03 pm)
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Due to some of the misinformation over the last several months I have copied several posts from last summer from the European Delivery Board.
  
We purchased a 2002 BMW 530i, Sport Package, 5 speed through BMW's European Delivery Program. Delivered on July 4, 2002. This July 6th we will take delivery of a 2005 Saab 9-3 Arc Convertible; July 4th did not work with our travel schedule.
   
BMWs are discounted 7% of the base price(not options), but include insurance; Saab 9-3 Arc Convertibles are discounted over 11% (including options)plus $2000 travel reimbursement; insurance is purchased separately. Advantage-Saab.
   
BMW meets you at their gate and walks you into their Delivery Center. Saab meets you at the train station, ferry terminal or airport in Gothenburg, chaeuffurs you to Romman Inn, pays for a 3 course dinner, pays for your room and chaeuffurs you to their Delivery Center in the morning. Saab's Delivery Center has to be very terrible not to be Advantage-Saab.
   
BMW's sticker is negotiable. Saab's is a factory program run by their North American Distributor. Advantage-BMW.
   
After we return I will add to this concerning delivery experience(BMW's is excellent), car condition(BMW was detailed perfectly and had a full tank of gas and 1.6 miles on the odometer, 1.9 on the trip odometer), drop off experience(Harms in London was seamless) and later delivery time(BMW arrived in Paducah, Ky 40 days after drop off) and car condition(again detailed perfectly and with a full tank of gas).
   
I would not trade my BMW for anything today. I hope the Saab experience continues to better BMW's. The only problem so far is GM's Employee Pricing Program. There is very little difference with list prices now and resale will be impacted forever. This is the 4th time I've been GMed.
  
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Picking up in Trollhattan, dropping off in Gothenburg via Oslo, Lillehammer, Svag(?), Upsalla, Visby, Copenhagen and Skagen.
   
Quantrell Cadillac, Volvo, Hummer has had the Saab franchise for about a year. Ours is there first ED sale. Our saleslady actually works Volvos, but handles all of their EDs. She said Saab was much better to work with than Volvo.
   
I'm hoping Swedish and Danish beaches with a Saab Convertible are just as nice as Switzerland with a BMW.
  
Continuation of #176
   
Delivery experience. Saab provides transportation to the delivery center which is a Saab Dealer in Trollhattan. The car is under cover in a large garage area. We forgot to look at the Saab store for individual items. Saab provided a very good European Road Atlas and gave us a Saab key ring. Time in and out was less than an hour. Draw with BMW.
   
Car condition at delivery. Car was detailed perfectly, but only had 3/4 tank of gas and had 1.3 miles on the trip odometer. Advantage BMW
   
I expect the car to be delivered in excellent condition in 6-8 weeks. Saab's overall experience is better than BMW's, but the difference is not enough to determine which car to purchase. Also, restaurants we found in Sweden, Norway and Denmark were better than the restaurants we found in Germany, Switzerland, France, Ireland and England 3 years ago.
  
Continuation of #183
   
We pick up our Saab 9-3 Convertible this evening, 2 weeks ahead of schedule.
  
We had no problems with either program. We also have had no problems with either car since redelivery, the BMW has over 70,000 miles and the Saab has over 15,000 miles. I sometimes wander if ED cars are better prepared.
 
Also, a car can be financed with the VIN number, you do not get a title till 30 days or so after initial registration. You will have the VIN number when purchase of an ED car is required.

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