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#5 of 2334 well by jchan2 Dec 25, 2003 (5:12 am)
Detroit is lazy. Tokyo is not. The second generation Prius is out and on the road, and GM is still having to make excuses about why there hasn't even been a 1st generation Hybrid from them.
#6 of 2334 by kirstie_h HOST Dec 25, 2003 (8:35 am)
That's a bit of an unfair comment, jchan. Conversely, one could claim that Tokyo is lazy because Japan hasn't produced real competitors in the big truck market.
#7 of 2334 well by jchan2 Dec 25, 2003 (9:20 am)
I guess we could agree that Detroit, Tokyo and Seoul have different priorities when it comes to which cars to sell.
#8 of 2334 No they are lazy and paid off by dlrecords Jan 27, 2004 (11:34 am)
Its obvious that Detroit companies have oil interests, why are they so against the CAFE standards, fuel cells promise for the future is all about downplaying the importance of currently available technology.
#9 of 2334 oil interests?? by kirstie_h HOST Jan 28, 2004 (5:24 am)
That's a pretty big claim. Couldn't it be that innovation and re-tooling are expensive, and they won't/can't spend the money it takes?
#10 of 2334 by kirstie_h HOST Jan 28, 2004 (6:16 am)
Lexus 400h on display at the auto show. They wouldn't let us get any closer! Replies to this message: vauvrille (Apr 19, 2005 6:29 am)
#11 of 2334 RE: RX400H by lok888 Jan 28, 2004 (1:47 pm)
It looks the only different (exterior) is the foglights location when compared to RX330. Anyone know the production date, pricing and specification? I read something about the V8 hybird engine with 270 hp.
#12 of 2334 yep by jchan2 Jan 28, 2004 (4:33 pm)
V8 power made with a V6 mated to a hybrid.
#13 of 2334 Preorder by thebest2003 Jan 29, 2004 (3:49 pm)
Talked to my local dealer and he said the vehicle should be out around October. They are accepting a deposit for preorder. He said if I do I'll be #8 on the list. No MSRP is announced yet but he said it should be around 45-46 grand. I'll wait and see as more information is given.   Right now there's really not much information out, other than it'll combine the current RX engine and an electrical one. The RX engine will power the front wheels and the other one will power the rear. 400 denotes to an equivalent of a 4.0 engine with 270 combined horsepower. Fuel economy is sketchy now, with rumors from 28mpg to 600 miles per tank.   The thing that concerns me is reliability. I know Toyota has 2 Prius but this will be a first hybrid SUV with substantial more horsepower. It has to withstand the abuse in a SUV. It is a very sophisticated system and no one knows how long it'll last. Granted, if you want one car company to start it, you want it to be Lexus. But right now I might just wait a bit and see, and maybe let them work out the problems with the early models. Another dealer has advised me to lease a current RX and wait a couple years before I get the new hybrid. Sounds like a safer bet to me.
#14 of 2334 Detroit like the big profit margins on the big vehicles by wco81 Feb 01, 2004 (9:43 pm)
That is why they resisted CAFE, because they want to be able to keep producing bigger and bigger SUVs, which are their cash cows. Some say if it were not for SUVs, Detroit may not have made money in the last decade.   So of course they can deal with the margins on bigger cars by putting hybrid systems on an already expensive vehicle, slipping in that extra high price option. And if big truck buyers resist paying extra for a hybrid truck, they can say, "See, people don't want to pay extra."   It's easy to be harsh on Detroit, given what happened in the '70s and '80s. But with booming SUV and truck/van sales, these Detroit executives think car buyers are telling them that fuel economy and emissions is secondary to comfort and feelings of safety in a big car. Plus, most of the auto executives at the American car companies weren't around probably in the '70s and '90s when Detroit was caught surprised by American's desire for more fuel-efficient and reliable cars offered by Japanese imports.

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