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Replying to: ellusionz21 (Sep 04, 2009 2:00 am) Edmunds says for that car MSRP is $20105, Invoice is $18515 plus $710 delivery charge for total Invoice of $19225. Also in my area there is $1000 in "market support" to the dealer which if you could get them to give that up would bring the price down to about $18,225 Honda also gives the dealer back about 2% of the invoice (holdback) for selling the car or about $400 which would bring the price down to $17825 which is as close to dealer cost as can be determined. You want to offer $17.5 to $18K plus you want them to pay tax, tile and licence (let's say $1000). You are asking them to take about a $1k loss on a popular car. I don't see it happening but check Edmunds figures for your zip code. There may be additional incentives in your area. There is also a prices paid forum here which may give you some direction (take those price claims with a grain of salt). |
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 04, 2009 2:47 am) 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 04, 2009 2:47 am)
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Replying to: mikefm58 (Sep 04, 2009 10:50 am) Me either. But maybe the OP will walk in 15 minutes before closing on the last day of December and the dealer will be one unit away from a monthly bonus, quarterly bonus, yearly bonus and unit bonus. 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 04, 2009 2:47 am)  Thanks for all your help. As I said I'm in no rush so will try to see who will go as close to $16k or so. And I just found that neat site, TrueCar, and it laid it out real nice the difference in the Actual Dealer Cost ($16,165), Average Paid ($17,017), Factory Invoice ($17,526), and Sticker Price ($18,765). I know TMV shows same stuff, but that graph helps show it off better. And even shows the monthly averages. Plus I like how it comes off over $1k cheaper
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Replying to: ellusionz21 (Sep 04, 2009 11:36 pm) No problem. When you do make a purchase come back and tell us the details. 
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Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Sep 05, 2009 1:36 am) |
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Replying to: ellusionz21 (Sep 04, 2009 11:36 pm) By all means keep us posted how things go. Me thinks you're going to be sadly disappointed by some of the online guides. None are 100% accurate and many are simply all over the place. They are not a buyers bible, even Edmunds. Makes you wonder how they come up with the numbers. A word of advice, just because a dealer won't give you the lowest online price you can find, don't take it personal and don't think he's a crook. That simply means the online guide you're using is off for your local area for the vehicle for that time of the year. |
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Does anyone know why Canadian dealer invoice prices are not freely available. Several websites say for a fee they can give an invoice price but I question the reliability of info that can't be verified. It is bad enough we get ripped off on MSRP that bear no relation to currency exchange rates but just about everything is out of wack ( for example: a 2010 equinox ships to San Diego for $745 US from the Cami Plant at Ingersoll,Ontario. This has to be more than 3000 kilometres. The same vehicle shipped 5 kilometres to the Chev dealer in Ingersol costs $1350 Canadian) The veil of secrecy makes it difficult to fairly price a deal and i don't understand how all the information on holdbacks, invoice price, rebates and dealer incentives is available in the US and not in Canada even for the identical cars.
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Replying to: rocketbob (Oct 29, 2009 8:58 am) The whole freight thing is easily explained - the number we pay in Canada includes PDI as well as freight (unless you are Kia who like to charge twice for PDI). The PDI component is way too much, but that is another story. |
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