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Re: What should my strategy be? [deltheking] by percussionist
Aug 06, 2009 (5:34 am)
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Replying to: deltheking (Aug 05, 2009 7:49 am)

I would also recommend Fitzmall or Carmax if you want to avoid haggling (Fitzmall would be better in my opinion - you could take the train down and drive home).
 
Since you don't own a car now, cash for clunkers does not affect you in any way. You will not get that rebate.
 
There is no reason for a dealer to run a credit check on you, but if you really want to make sure, then run your own credit report (which costs $15-$30, but does not lower your score). If you are buying a house and looking for a mortgage, you should do this anyway (be an informed consumer). This way, you bring your credit report with you to the dealer. If your credit is great and there is a zero percent financing deal, take it and use your cash for the house instead.
 
All the cars you discussed are great cars - go drive them and pick the one you like. Buying a car isn't that hard - just know what you want and what is an acceptable deal for you, and you'll do fine. Good luck!
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Re: What should my strategy be? [percussionist] by movinout77
Aug 06, 2009 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: percussionist (Aug 06, 2009 5:34 am)

Thanks. I checked into both Fitzmall and Carmax. Unfortunately, carmax only seems to have LE's. Silly as it sounds, I like the spoiler and rims that come with the S version. But maybe the LE's on Carmax have these since the MSRP shown suggests that there are more options than what they list.
 
Fitzmall, while 4 hours away, seems appealing. I can get a ride from my fiancee. Not that I necessarily want/need it, but I can get the car I want with a moonroof for what I was expecting to pay w/o one. And with lower sales tax and less chance of BS fees being tacked on, I'd do pretty well. I'd hate to go all the way there, test drive, and not like it.
 
The one that I'm interested is in Pennsylvania. One of my back-ups is the Mazda3 and they have decent prices on those as well, in their store 1 hour away from PA in Maryland.
 
As for the rebates, I wasn't refering to cash-for-clunkers. Those only go to folks who have cars that get 18mpg's or less. I don't get $4,500 for being green and choosing to take the bus the past 7 years. But at the end of June, when it occurred to me to look into buying a car, it seems they were giving back $1,500 on the '09 Corollas and $500 on the '10's. No such rebates now.
 
I have no idea whether the rebates were conditional on financing the car through Toyota or whether they applied to cash purchases too. If it's the latter, I'm miffed at myself for not thinking to act sooner. After the rebates went away in July, I thought to wait until August when I figured they'd have better deals again. The cash-for-clunkers thing really threw a monkey wrench into my plans. Rebates or not, my negotiating power is not what it would've been in June. As I said earlier, I may wait for this surge to pass, but I can't wait forever.
 
As for the other stuff, I did have my credit checked out just a few weeks ago for the mortgage stuff. If anyone asks to see it, I can show them my unofficial printout, I guess. I just can't tap into any credit right now, even with the great financing deals. Real estate prices are still ridiculous in NY/NJ, and I can't get a decent house if there's evidence that I'm taking on any debt other than the mortgage.
 
Thanks.
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Re: What should my strategy be? [movinout77] by dtownfb
Aug 06, 2009 (9:33 am)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 06, 2009 8:11 am)

Try your local dealership. Do some research on Edmunds first to find out what people are paying for a Corolla S or whatever car you are interested in. Tell them you want to pay cash and you don't have a clunker. They may be willing to take your offer, if it is reasonable, since it will require less paperwork.
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Re: What should my strategy be? [movinout77] by 210delray
Aug 06, 2009 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 06, 2009 8:11 am)

On the sales tax issue, you won't save anything by purchasing out of state. PA and MD are likely the same as VA, my home state. If you buy a car here, you pay only a nominal fee for temporary plates good for 30 days. When you return to NY, you have to register the car there and pay the NY sales tax and registration fees. Some states require you to do this within 10-20 days, even though the out-of-state plate hasn't yet expired, so you may want to check first.
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Re: What should my strategy be? [movinout77] by movinout77
Aug 06, 2009 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 06, 2009 8:11 am)

Yeah, I remembered the sales tax thing after I posted, which stinks since I can't imagine a higher tax than NYC's.
 
And if I remember what I read correctly, the usual strategy is to mention at the last possible minute that you're paying cash. Should I be more upfront about it? Mentioning it before agreeing on a price means they could pad the price a bit by trying to make up for what they couldn't profit from me with finance charges. Then again, by not mentioning it, they can reneg on the agreed price and try to bump me anyway, which would waste everyone's time.
 
The dealers in my area are sleezy - especially the ones closest to me. I'd prefer not to play with those guys if I didn't have to -- esp. now since buyers like me are in what I think is a weak negotiating position. I guess it couldn't hurt to try them, but I'm thinking of waiting for this wave to pass.
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Re: What should my strategy be? [movinout77] by mikefm58
Aug 06, 2009 (10:52 am)
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Replying to: movinout77 (Aug 06, 2009 10:22 am)

Should I be more upfront about it?
 
I've never understood the strategy of holding back information about financing or in some deals, a trade in. To me, that just delays things and in the end doesn't change the deal.
 
The dealers in my area are sleezy - especially the ones closest to me
 
Same here in central Florida, home of the $699 dealer fee. I seriously doubt I'll ever own a Nissan simply because of the slime balls I've run in to at those dealers. I usually start the process with emails and then start with the dealers that were the most upfront and professional with me.
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Buying under invoice? by ellusionz21
Sep 04, 2009 (12:41 am)
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I'm just confused at how people get prices under invoice? First off, how to find out what the invoice is... then how to talk them out of their profit? Is this possible or are these people crazy? Thanks for your help. I'm looking to buy a Honda Civic EX if I can get the price down enough... around 17k would be perfect, but I have a feeling I'm going to have to get an LX around that price.

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