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#5135 of 5169 Re: Saturn Aura XR [waathaq] by isellhondas May 31, 2009 (7:08 am)
Replying to: waathaq (May 30, 2009 12:01 pm) If you try to haggle, you would be defeating the "Saturn way of doing business" where everyone pays MSRP!   This is what they are all about, isn't it?
#5136 of 5169 Re: Saturn Aura XR [waathaq] by jipster May 31, 2009 (12:56 pm)
Replying to: waathaq (May 30, 2009 12:01 pm) it is that I can bargain the price down from the MSRP   The price of the car is only one piece of the pie. If you have a trade-in, try to haggle more money for your trade. Try to get the dealership to waive their doc. fee. Ask for 2 years free oil changes, extra set of floor mats or keys, a trip to Cancun... etc.
#5137 of 5169 Re: Saturn Aura XR [waathaq] by imidazol97 Jun 02, 2009 (7:06 am)
Replying to: waathaq (May 30, 2009 12:01 pm) >how likely it is that I can bargain the price down from the MSRP   Just tell them what you want. Ignore the schtick about no haggling. Then walk out. Make sure they have you phone number as part of the dialogue.   Your use of $3000 may be limited to a certain dollar value instead of the whole $3000. That's why I have no GM card anymore. I cancelled it; my longest credit card just to let them Know I didn't like their new policy.
#5138 of 5169 Re: I want to buy a LANCER GTS 5 SPEED [joel0622] by oldfarmer50 Jun 04, 2009 (5:29 am)
Replying to: joel0622 (May 25, 2009 6:48 am) "...Ordered units are great..."   Really? In my experience, when I've mentioned ordering, the salesguy has reacted like I just threw acid in his face. I've had them go so far as to lie to me and tell me the car I wanted wasn't being made any more so I would have to select from in-stock units.   Maybe I'll come see you next time. Replies to this message: joel0622 (Jun 08, 2009 12:27 pm) snakeweasel (Jun 08, 2009 1:54 pm)
#5139 of 5169 Re: I want to buy a LANCER GTS 5 SPEED [oldfarmer50] by joel0622 Jun 08, 2009 (12:27 pm)
Replying to: oldfarmer50 (Jun 04, 2009 5:29 am) Thats because who ever you are dealing at does not see the big picture and is living in a now, now, now world. Replies to this message: snakeweasel (Jun 08, 2009 1:54 pm)
#5140 of 5169 Re: I want to buy a LANCER GTS 5 SPEED [joel0622] by snakeweasel Jun 08, 2009 (1:54 pm)
Replying to: joel0622 (Jun 08, 2009 12:27 pm) Thats because who ever you are dealing at does not see the big picture and is living in a now, now, now world   Like 90% of the population.
#5141 of 5169 When to disclose VIP program membership by 204meca Jul 06, 2009 (11:52 am)
I am a member of an organization that has VIP pricing w Subaru. As a member I am entitled to a price "2% below dealer invoice". have 2 questions regarding using this program:     1. Is the "dealer invoice" the same as the invoice prices I find on Edmunds when I go to build a car?   2. In the past I have been pretty successful in negotiating prices significantly below invoice. But I am in the market for a 2010 Forester or Outback, both which are selling very well so I may be less successful at getting a great price on my own. At what point should I say "I have a VIP Subaru pricing. So me starting point for negotion on this price is 2% below your invoice". Should inform them as soon as the conversation starts or go through the dance 1st?   Any other suggestions welcomed -- thanks! Replies to this message: nortsr1 (Jul 06, 2009 12:29 pm) verdugo (Jul 06, 2009 1:43 pm) volvomax (Jul 06, 2009 3:04 pm)
#5142 of 5169 Re: When to disclose VIP program membership [204meca] by nortsr1 Jul 06, 2009 (12:29 pm)
Replying to: 204meca (Jul 06, 2009 11:52 am) I have used the Chevrolet Employee price and Ford X Plans several times and have found the Edmunds invoice prices to be almost identical to the dealers invoice (providing you have the exact same accessories listed). The dealer should be willing to show you his Subaru invoice and then deduct the 2% and don't forget to also subtract the incentives, rebates or whatever. The Forester and Outback are selling very well??? That's questionable. Check your dealers inventory on the net thru Edmunds. I am certain this is a good a time as any to deal with ANY car dealer.
#5143 of 5169 Re: When to disclose VIP program membership [204meca] by verdugo Jul 06, 2009 (1:43 pm)
Replying to: 204meca (Jul 06, 2009 11:52 am) IIRC Subaru VIP pricing was "at a no-haggle price of dealer invoice cost,", not "2% below dealer invoice." (confirmed by a quick google search)   They also said that dealers were not required to participate, and it was up to dealer to include all models.   Even though they are selling well (nortsr1, Subaru is the only make with a sales increase), a lot of it is from the Impreza. If you are buying one of the higher end models, it shouldn't be difficult to get VIP pricing.   My opinion? Be upfront with the dealer. You are unlikely to get much better than dealer invoice. The outback is brand new (it arrives this week or so), and the Forrester is also new.   If you are one of those people who like to squeeze every single dollar from the deal, by all means grind away first. I value my time, and don't think you can do better than dealer invoice cost.   Finally, I don't think the invoice price you see in Edmunds is the same as dealer invoice cost, but somebody in the biz is better suited than me to answer it. Replies to this message: volvomax (Jul 06, 2009 3:04 pm)
#5144 of 5169 Re: When to disclose VIP program membership [verdugo] by volvomax Jul 06, 2009 (3:04 pm)
Replying to: verdugo (Jul 06, 2009 1:43 pm) Edmunds does not include the advertising charges that appear on the dealer invoice. The only reason they don't is that these charges vary from region to region and Edmunds can't be bothered to get all of them and come up with a way to let you know what the cost is in your area. Otherwise, you should be able to match up whatever the invoice is on Edmunds with the real one at the dealer. Also, these buyer plans aren't a point to open negotiations with, they are a one price, one size fits all way to buy a car. So, be up front if you are eligible.

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