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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 23, 2009 4:29 am) Well, most folks get closer than ten feet to the car they are considering buying. And you are correct, the addition of pinstripes are subjective, but in some applications, they do improve the looks of the car, and many people like them. And as I said, it is the dealers choice to market his product as he sees fit. The consumer has the choice to either buy the car as is, or refuse to pay for unwanted extra equipment. The consumer can also choose to buy at another dealer. So to call it illegitimate, is really a stretch. I personally would not pay for them, so I would exercise my right to not pay or go elsewhere. You can certainly do the same. I think we have beat this to death, so lets move on. 
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Replying to: jwilliams2 (May 23, 2009 7:03 am) Like I posted earlier, most consumers will end up paying for those add-ons whether the dealer waives the fee or not. He'll just tack the cost on somewhere else. The sales manager will not drop the price of the car as much, or he will insist on a full doc. fee instead of a discount. They aren't going to give you something for free. It's a good bargaining ploy as well. The sales manager says that he waived $2,000 worth of dealer installed options, now why can't you the consumer meet him halfway on price. Us savvy Edmunds buyers will have a smart out the door price that doesn't include any money for dealer add ons. That way we know the add-ons aren't being sneaked in somewhere else. Still probably better to shop somewhere else.
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Replying to: jipster (May 23, 2009 7:22 am) Amen. In the back of my mind, I'd keep thinking "If they already tried pulling a fast one, what else are they going to try?" IMHO, a transaction requires a degree of trust. Once they start playing tricks, I take my business elsewhere.
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Replying to: verdugo (May 23, 2009 8:08 am) I think that when people put their blinders on, they tend to focus usually too much on just one part of the transaction and then can get blindsided.
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 23, 2009 11:49 am) Totally agree. "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former". -Albert Einstein
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 23, 2009 3:53 pm) Now why would you want to do something that would cause the sales guy to lose interest. In my past experience ordering to specs is very profitable for the sales guy. Granted, they don't make an immediate sale, but it's still big bucks for them. Any what's your point? |
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Replying to: joel0622 (May 25, 2009 6:48 am) Joel and other salesfolks, Do you think that varies by region or dealership? I get the sense that you and explorer and isellhondas and volvomax have been at the same dealer, well, since the earth cooled (smart a** comments aside, I think that is a good thing overall). Here in Michigan, I have noticed that is much more "normal" where the sales guy I bought my last car from was still there when I was looking for the next one, but in some places, things are more churn and burn. I think the turnover is so high at some of the dealers that the salesfolks don't want to do the orders because they don't know they will be there next month. Do you see that as a possibility?
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