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Replying to: jwilliams2 (May 22, 2009 7:05 pm) OK I have to ask how does it differentiate from which competition? If you mean from the same model car from another dealership I don't see how (since most people won't see them from distances greater than 10 feet), if you mean different makes I think that being a different make is difference enough. It is kind of a stretch to imply this is illegitimate. Its only legitimate if the customer asks for the pinstripes to be applied. It really is a stretch to apply them to every car and say its needed.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 22, 2009 8:15 pm) Differentiate, meaning makes the car look better/sharper than a competitor's without. Not that hard to understand. Its only legitimate if the customer asks for the pinstripes to be applied. It really is a stretch to apply them to every car and say its needed. A dealer can offer a product configured any way he sees fit. If a dealer wants to sell all cars with upgraded purple wheels, thats his choice, and he can charge what he wants. As long as he puts it on the proper addendum. The consumer always has options, and can buy or not. Never heard a dealer say its "needed". Just his way of marketing. Smart, maybe not. Again, not that hard to understand, and not illegal or illegitimate.
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Replying to: jwilliams2 (May 22, 2009 8:50 pm) Sorry but its hard to understand how something that is unnoticed when your more than ten feet away makes a car look better/sharper. Also the fact that it makes the car look better/sharper is completely subjective. A dealer can offer a product configured any way he sees fit. Agree but is it a meaningful configuration and does the customer have a choice in the configuration? Never heard a dealer say its "needed". Having it on every car they sell implies that it is needed. Basically "we don't sell it without it, take it or leave it" is pretty much the same as "it's needed". Again, not that hard to understand, and not illegal or illegitimate. I will agree its not illegal, but I have to disagree that it it legitimate as the reality of the situation it doesn't truly improve the car. Its not hard to understand.
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Replying to: snakeweasel (May 23, 2009 4:29 am) Well, most folks get closer than ten feet to the car they are considering buying. And you are correct, the addition of pinstripes are subjective, but in some applications, they do improve the looks of the car, and many people like them. And as I said, it is the dealers choice to market his product as he sees fit. The consumer has the choice to either buy the car as is, or refuse to pay for unwanted extra equipment. The consumer can also choose to buy at another dealer. So to call it illegitimate, is really a stretch. I personally would not pay for them, so I would exercise my right to not pay or go elsewhere. You can certainly do the same. I think we have beat this to death, so lets move on. 
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Replying to: jwilliams2 (May 23, 2009 7:03 am) Like I posted earlier, most consumers will end up paying for those add-ons whether the dealer waives the fee or not. He'll just tack the cost on somewhere else. The sales manager will not drop the price of the car as much, or he will insist on a full doc. fee instead of a discount. They aren't going to give you something for free. It's a good bargaining ploy as well. The sales manager says that he waived $2,000 worth of dealer installed options, now why can't you the consumer meet him halfway on price. Us savvy Edmunds buyers will have a smart out the door price that doesn't include any money for dealer add ons. That way we know the add-ons aren't being sneaked in somewhere else. Still probably better to shop somewhere else.
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Replying to: jipster (May 23, 2009 7:22 am) Amen. In the back of my mind, I'd keep thinking "If they already tried pulling a fast one, what else are they going to try?" IMHO, a transaction requires a degree of trust. Once they start playing tricks, I take my business elsewhere.
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Replying to: verdugo (May 23, 2009 8:08 am) I think that when people put their blinders on, they tend to focus usually too much on just one part of the transaction and then can get blindsided.
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 23, 2009 11:49 am) Totally agree. "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former". -Albert Einstein
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Replying to: blckislandguy (May 23, 2009 3:53 pm) Now why would you want to do something that would cause the sales guy to lose interest. In my past experience ordering to specs is very profitable for the sales guy. Granted, they don't make an immediate sale, but it's still big bucks for them. Any what's your point? |
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