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Replying to: billherrmann (Jul 19, 2004 5:36 pm) |
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Replying to: billherrmann (Jul 19, 2004 5:36 pm) Overall Length: 4286 mm Wheelbase: 2578 mm Height: 1423 mm Width: 1765 mm Width w/ mirror:1959 mm Front track: 1531 mm Rear track: 1515 mm Front Headroom: 970 mm Rear Headroom: 938 mm Can't find the legroom measurement, but Front legroom is the same as the current Golf/Jetta, and the Rear legroom is about 2.5 inches longer than the current Golf/Jetta. 2FastDre. |
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First drive impressions from the October issues of several of the major car magazines have been published. They all seem to estimate 25k as the base price for the FWD, manual 2.0 turbo. By the time the A3 gets typically equipped with sunroof, metallic paint, tiptronic or DSG, leather, and heated seats--the price would be 29k plus. This would not include quattro AWD, bose stereo, zenons or other options that some buyers will want. Add these options and the price climbs to 32k plus. This is way too high! And it is definitely too close to the A4, which people will perceive to be a step up in the Audi line. The A3 is supposed to attract young buyers to the brand. Young buyers can't afford this. I bet Audi will blame lack of sales on the fact that it is a hatchback, and we Americans prefer sedans. I've heard this song and dance before, and I don't buy it. IMO, there is a market for hatches. But they have to price it right. Bottom line: base price needs to be closer to 22k with a typically equipped version at 26-27k for the FWD 2.0T. Otherwise it will flop. And high pricing will be the reason. Just imagine how expensive the 3.2 version will be when fully loaded with all options including navigation system. I would guess 38k or more, which is ridiculous.
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Replying to: carman123 (Sep 11, 2004 4:33 pm) Although after a year or so, the car will flop and can be had for 3-4k off sticker making it the price they should have had in the first place
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Replying to: andy (Sep 13, 2004 8:04 am) The A3 should cost less than the A4 since it's on the cheaper PQ46 chassis. If it costs the same, I'd go for the A4, even though I'd prefer the smaller A3. If it shares everything, other than the chassis, then the question really is how much does the chassis cost. A new Audi with a 2.0T, leather, heated seats, scrap the sunroof for zenons, and DSG for under 30 does seem like a...relatively good deal. Make it 27 like the TSX and in my book there would be no comparison. Or, a better question would be. How much more are you willing to pay for an A3 over a VW GTI? |
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"Or, a better question would be. How much more are you willing to pay for an A3 over a VW GTI?" For me, the answer is about 2k. Or Maybe a maximum of about 4k if the Audi is AWD and the GTI is FWD. It will be interesting to see how they both are priced. |
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| AWD R32 will be essentially twins (or triplets if you count the TT/3.2). The big difference is there is no DSG version of the R32 in the US, so far. | |
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Smaller will be preferable for me. I'm not much interested in the current bloating of the compact class. They're becoming mid-sized, one and all! So, for me, the price tag is of less importance than the feel and the capability. Doesn't mean the observation isn't valid, just means there may be an audience that will accept a relatively small price difference between certain configs of A3 and A4; maybe even a touch of overlap.
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the price differentials between versions of the Passat and the A4 are not great once you start adding options to the VW to bring it up to the equipment level of the A4 equivalent. The October issues of R&T and Automobile0 have good skinny as well as divergent views on the prospects for the A4. |
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Replying to: wale_bate1 (Sep 14, 2004 8:08 am) My original point was that if the A3 bumped into the A4 price margins, then the A4 being the more ‘sophisticated’ would sway me...maybe not all the way...the Sportback is nice, and like you said, if it does what you want it to do, more metal doesn't make it better 
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