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Audi A3, Wagon
#1753 of 2296 Re: I can tell you that VW is a level down on... [user1000]
Mar 14, 2006 (10:24 pm)
I've been quietly waiting to see what 2007 brings as well. My issue (as many of y'all have heard me say ad-nauseum) is the inability to order an A3 2.0T Sport Package, the Convenience/Bluetooth Package AND Xenon headlights. Given that both cars on either side of the 2.0T SP in the A3 lineup (i.e. the A3 2.0T Premium Package and the A3 3.2 S-Line) can be ordered with Bluetooth and Xenons, I'm really hoping that Audi corrects this for 2007.
#1754 of 2296 Configuration weirdness...
Mar 14, 2006 (10:38 pm)
As I'm not even remotely interested in getting an Automatic transmission on an A3, I've never bothered to "Build" one on Audi's web site before now, and what I discovered sort of shocked me.
I configured a 2.0T as like for like as possible next to a 3.2 and found that Audi is getting a whopping $6,765 premium for the addition of the VR6 engine, the Haldex AWD system and some bits of trim. Admittedly the difference would shrink to $5,285 if I had optioned the DSG on the 2.0T, however, given that I have an intense dislike for Automatic trannys, the nearly $7,000 difference stands.
A couple of other things I noticed:
1) The 3.2 has a "Premium Leather Seats" option for $800. What's the difference between those and the standard leather seating?
2) The Bi-Xenon headlights cost $650 on the 2.0T and $800 on the 3.2. The caption says just "Bi-Xenon" for the 2.0T but "Bi-Xenon Adaptive" for the 3.2. Are the "Adaptive" headlights like the ones found on the new 3-Series that kind of turn in the direction of the front wheels?
#1755 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [shipo]
Mar 15, 2006 (6:39 am)
I'm not happy with Audi's pricing either, but let's be fair. In terms of price differences, you compare similarly equipped vehicles. It does not matter whether you value the equipment or not.
Therefore you start with a 2.0 with DSG because the 3.2 is only available with DSG. While the comparison is not perfect because you cannot exactly duplicate the options on the 3.2 in the 2.0, the difference is approximately $4835. Your figures are off by over $2k!
The standard leather seats are leather surfaces which means that the entire seat is not leather. And you are correct, the adaptive xenon lights turn in the direction of the front wheels. Probably a worthwhile feature for twisting roads and worthless for most highways.
#1756 of 2296 Re: I can tell you that VW is a level down on... [user1000]
Mar 15, 2006 (6:57 am)
I think the option packages will be simplified for the 2.0. There isn't anything to simplify for the 3.2 as there are no packages for that car. I don't expect many changes for the 3.2 in 2007. If you are going to load the car with just about every option, you probably won't see many changes at all. But I'm told the factory switches over to 2007 models in April/May, so you might as well wait and see what changes there are. If you get the 2007 ordering/pricing info as soon as it is available, you might be able to choose between 2006 and 2007 models.
Personally, I'm going to wait and see how many 3.2s are sitting on lots comes late Summer and Fall. I'm betting there will be a few with options close to what I want and dealers willing to discount. All the dealers in my area seem to order the same car: 3.2 in dark grey or silver, sky system, sat radio, bluetooth xenon lights and CWP. The only things they don't commonly order is the performance package (bigger wheels and perf tires)and navigation system.
#1757 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [ccd1]
Mar 15, 2006 (7:20 am)
"While the comparison is not perfect because you cannot exactly duplicate the options on the 3.2 in the 2.0, the difference is approximately $4835. Your figures are off by over $2k!"
Forgetting for a moment the argument that I have about not paying for something that I do not want (something that I have an intense dislike for actually), I did post the following:
"Admittedly the difference would shrink to $5,285 if I had optioned the DSG on the 2.0T..."
The two cars that I configured that showed that difference were both like for like, ... Errr, wait a minute... Does the 3.2 come with the Premium Audio with the Bose and CD Changer? If it does then there is at least part of the difference because I didn't configure the 2.0T that way (don't want/need the changer and am not impressed with the Bose speakers).
#1758 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [shipo]
Mar 15, 2006 (8:13 am)
Did I miss the sport suspension in your 2.0T config? Standard on the 3.2. Don't know if you figger'd that in, Shipo. It's a must have for me.
$2K over what it should be. I'm sticking with my story here...
#1759 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [wale_bate1]
Mar 15, 2006 (8:20 am)
Yeah, it's the Sport Package (suspension included) that's the central point of my #^&~, ummm, errr, issues with Audi. The sad fact is that if you opt for the SP, then you can either have Bluetooth OR Xenon headlights.
#1760 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [shipo]
Mar 15, 2006 (8:27 am)
I know, I know, and I try to be sympathetic with your plight old bean, but since neither option is of any importance to me, my sympathy is soley that of a fellow generally-frustrated-with-the-industry shopper!
Audi certainly is an odd duck. Way cool, but odd.
BTW, I believe the Mrs. is now firmly on track to pursue the A8 at the end of her "mini"van lease. Way the heck too big for my tastes, but I won't object to being chauffered in such a conveyance. A two Audi family? Perhaps.
#1761 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [wale_bate1]
Mar 15, 2006 (8:46 am)
"I know, I know, and I try to be sympathetic with your plight old bean, but since neither option is of any importance to me, my sympathy is soley that of a fellow generally-frustrated-with-the-industry shopper!"
Is that sorta like me commiserating with a fellow enthusiast who would love to drive an S2000 only to be denied because it cannot be had with an automatic transmission?
#1762 of 2296 Re: Configuration weirdness... [shipo]
Mar 15, 2006 (8:59 am)
The 3.2 does come with Premium Radio and Bose speakers. The easiest way to do the comparison is to go to the Specs page and identify all the things that are standard on the 3.2 which are optional on the 2.0. Neither the Sports Package nor the Premium Package have everything that is on the 3.2. I chose the Premium Package for my comparison, but you could make an argument for the Sports Package. Opting for the Sports Package would raise the difference to around $5k.