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#782 of 2444 Re: X5 4.8 - 20" Wheels - Mid West ? [sm_ed]
Dec 27, 2007 (6:36 pm)
sm_ed - You WILL experience a big difference with 20" wheels on an X5 because they ship with performance tires and not the all season tires that ship on the 19" wheels. I have owned three X5s with 20" wheels and I can tell you from experience that they are almost useless in anything more than an inch of snow. I remember one particular experience trying to drive to the airport early one morning in about 5 inches of snow before the roads were plowed. The vehicle had zero lateral traction and I was lucky to reach 20 mph without sliding sideways. (And no, all wheel drive didn't compensate to any significant degree.)
I advise against 20" wheels if you plan on anything more than occasional driving in light snow. It's just not worth the extra $ cost for a "cosmetic" improvement (for most drivers) if you plan to drive in the snow often. BMW's web site even says "Performance tires are not recommended for driving in snow and ice conditions."
I ended up buying a second set of 18" wheels with all-season tires that I would swap on in December. What a hassle.
Contrast this with my 2007 X5 with 19" wheels, sport package, and all season tires which is a trooper in the snow.
Also note that replacing the OEM 20" performance tires with the same size all-season tires is expensive. There are few choices, all of which are north of $350 per tire.
If you have already purchased the vehicle, tirerack.com is a great resource for researching all season options. I found that it was much, much cheaper to buy a set of 18" wheels with all-season tires already mounted and balanced than it was to buy replacement OEM tires. The 18" wheels work just fine, but of course they don't look as nice as the originals.
#783 of 2444 2008 X5 3.0
Dec 28, 2007 (8:40 am)
I'm trying to determine whether this is a good deal. 08 X5 3.0 msrp $56,225 (prem., tech., cold weather, 3rd row, rear climate, running boards, ipod) for $53,685. I can't seem to get a straight answer on invoice price because the dealers build in a dealer prep. fee which runs around $600. Sounds like b.s. Any guidance would be appreciated.
#784 of 2444 Re: X5 4.8 - 20" Wheels - Mid West ? [anon3]
Dec 28, 2007 (9:30 am)
That explains why the demo car with 19s was so sure footed driving in 3 inches of snow. My wife who is a big fan of LX470 immedietly agreed to go for the X5 - part of it had to do with how well it handled in Snow.
Gosh! picking up the car tomorrow and driving back 600 mi. Thought I will enjoy the car before: wife take over . This has adventure written all over it with the weather like it is in Midwest.
Dealer is more than willing to do a swap for the 19s. Having a hard time to go for that.
#785 of 2444 Re: X5 4.8 - 20" Wheels - Mid West ? [sm_ed]
Dec 28, 2007 (3:29 pm)
You're welcomed. I'm glad I could help. If the dealer will swap the wheels for free, it might be worth it just for the peace of mind. Whatever you decide, you will enjoy the X5.
Dec 28, 2007 (5:00 pm)
Seems that you know a lot abt the x5 tires,would like to know in what size of tire will the x5 have the best handling and what brand of tire in normal road condition.I have seen x5 in 3 tire brands michelin,bridgestone,dunlop
Isn't anyone here who is interested in a x6 looks great in pic surely will be better to see in person.
#787 of 2444 BMW pricing
Dec 30, 2007 (10:50 am)
I am a first time BMW X5 buyer. I sent emails to 5 dealers asking them about the best price they can give me on 2008 X5 with my required options. 4 of them replied saying that they have the vehicles and advised me to come and look at them and that they will give me a good deal on the vehicle. the other one was more staright forward and he said that he will give me the vehicle for a price that is 1500 above the invoice price what ever it is. I have couple of questions. should I go with the Dealer that gave me the price quote. if so how low should I start the bargaining with him since he already made his offer. do you think I should start below invoice? does it work? do you think price of 1500 above invoice is a good deal? also should I even bother to go to the other dealerships at all as they have not yet made any offer and I do not want to waste my time with them if they are not going to give a better deal. kindly share your expereinces with me and I really value your advice.
#788 of 2444 Re: BMW pricing [jason42]
Dec 30, 2007 (7:59 pm)
I'm pretty new to this board, but I've been lurking around bimmerfest.com for MONTHS! I sent emails to 6 dealerships within 100 miles of where I live (San Diego). 4 of them were willing to give me a direct price quote when I said I was looking for 750 over invoice. Based on all of the posts on bimmerfest, x5world, this forum, and a couple others, 750 over invoice appeared to be the best deal one could get. Two were going to honor the 750, but my final decision was based on how easily I could close the deal (the OLP expires on Jan 2 and I needed to lock in the rate asap) and how willing they were to work around my April 16th lease end on my '05 X3. Since I am a current BMW owner, I'm getting the OLP MF of .00170. Here's a breakdown of my deal:
Sellprice: 51360 (750 over invoice, with MACO and Training included)
10000 miles per year
Owner loyalty money factor .00170
Acquisition fee 625
Monthly payment 728 (incl tax rate of 7.75%)
Drive off 1207 (1st month payment and DMV charges)
Residual at 61% 32772.25
I did this calculation on my own via some lease calculator I found on bimmerfest and the payment I figured was off by about $18...the dealer mentioned some misc. fees he included, but I'm not too concerned with 18 bucks difference. The car is ordered and the deposit has been placed. I expect delivery late March.
Hope this info helps you!
#789 of 2444 Re: BMW pricing [jason42]
Dec 30, 2007 (10:22 pm)
I am not sure which part of the US you are in. But I would be stunned if you have 5 dealers with the exact options/colors X5 available in their showroom at this point in time. (If you are ordering it, that is a different matter). Anyway having said that your max price should be: invoice +1500. If you are in CA, maybe invoice + 1000. Also note that unlike other car dealers (Honda, Toyota etc), luxury car dealers won't budge too much on price. Their thinking: If you are walking into a showroom to drop 60k on a depreciating asset, a thousand extra for you won't be a deal breaker.
#790 of 2444 Re: X5 4.8 - 20" Wheels - Mid West ? [anon3]
Dec 31, 2007 (1:35 pm)
Excellent 700 mi drive back home. Between getting familiar with the I-Drive and Sat. Radio - 10hr Drive seemed shorter. Everybody in the extended Dallas family liked the car. Considering that we are a LC/LX470 family - handling was especially appreciated. ( Not negative against LC/LX - just different ride) .
Tobacco Interior and Premium Sound were huge hit.
Head-Up Display was a nice surprise.
HD showing Navigation, Cruise Control and different messages was interesting during the drive.
Very happy with the decision to get a White / Tobacco - 4.8 X5.
Thanks to the Forum...
Dec 31, 2007 (5:50 pm)
Hi u seem to be in love with this car as ur describing 10hr drive seem shorter?!!!
Since u guys like lx470 didn't consider checking out the new lx570 since it be out within the next week or 2?
Did u get the 19inch run flats,have heard many saying that run flats ride as harsh less comfortable noisy can u confirm it?
You said its just a different ride than a lx?can u describe it how different and whats better
Did you get Active Steering many have been describing as big mistake by bmw It degrades handling and steering feel.
Head-Up Display is this useful and can you turn it off
Well HAPPY NEW YEAR. enjoy your new car and congratulations.