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newish 2005 by timar
Nov 23, 2005 (7:48 pm)
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A local dealer has an X5 with premium, cold weather,rear climate, xenon. It has ~4000 miles on it. How much off the new sticker price for those few miles? How much does a BMW lose in value once it is off the lot? If I buy a brand new 2005, will the dealer still get the 6000 incentive?
 
Thanks
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Negotiating for a new BMW by am05
Nov 24, 2005 (6:55 am)
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I have read many posts about the results of negotiations with dealers for new and used BMWs, but I have not read any that give specific advice on how to achieve the same. I found a car that I want (330Ci 2dr Coupe) and I am ready to begin the battle for lowest price.
 
Since the dealers mainly consider four elements in the selling process, 1)Price, 2)Trade-In, 3)Down Payment and 4)Monthly Payment, I am considering financing the deal so the dealer will give me a lower Price or higher Trade-In based on planned profit from interest in the financing. I would then pay the entire balance in the first monthly payment.
 
I am wondering if anyone else has any advice or experience on this. I am afraid that if I remove financing from the deal, I will be left with only 1)Price and 2)Trade-In to negotiate with and will not get as good a deal. Basically, I am planning on letting the dealer think he has money coming from interest on financing that I will take back.
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Re: Negotiating for a new BMW [am05] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 25, 2005 (5:46 am)
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Replying to: am05 (Nov 24, 2005 6:55 am)

It seems you might be making this a little too hard...
 
If you want to pay cash for the car, by all means, go ahead and do it.. I find that dealers tend to make the best deals for people that they feel certain will consummate the deal, immediately.
 
Dealers do make money off of financing.. but, they don't get the interest from the loan.. When they write a loan for the bank, the bank pays them a small commission.. If the dealer writes the loan for a higher interest rate than the buyer would have otherwise qualified for, then the commission is bigger.
 
But most dealers, especially high-line dealers, are familiar with buyers coming in to pay cash for a car.. Any dealer is going to try and get the highest possible price for their car, but most salespeople and sales managers don't get paid off the finance office commissions... They are just as likely to make you the same deal, either way..
 
Now, if you were leasing, there are a whole bunch of other things to look out for...
 
Anyway.. back to the point.. Some dealers make a living out of confusing people with finance and monthly payment offers.. Don't introduce those factors into your negotiation if you don't have to... Shop around, and get the best cash price...
 
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kyfdx
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Re: Negotiating for a new BMW [kyfdx] by am05
Nov 25, 2005 (10:33 am)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Nov 25, 2005 5:46 am)

Thanks for the advice, you seem to have done this before. One more question;
 
What price do you use as the basis of defining a “good” deal? I have Invoice, MSRP and “What others are paying”. Since there seem to be no rebates or incentives for BMW, I guess I will shoot for invoice plus…
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Re: Negotiating for a new BMW [am05] by kyfdx HOST
Nov 25, 2005 (9:18 pm)
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Replying to: am05 (Nov 25, 2005 10:33 am)

If there aren't any incentives, then you'll be hard pressed to get any closer than $1000 over invoice on a BMW.. On an X5, with a spread of $4K between invoice and MSRP, you've got a decent deal if you are anywhere on the invoice side of half-way between the two numbers..
 
Ask them for a price first... and see where they start...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Is this deal worth it? (in Dallas) by homerjb
Dec 03, 2005 (10:30 pm)
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I am looking for a 2006 4.4 X5. A local dealer offered $2000 off $60,245 for the following configuration:
 
2006 X5 4.4i
Cold weather package
Premium package
Rear climate package
Heated Steering Wheel
Premium Hi Fi System
18 or 19" wheels (not sure which one)
 
Question
1. The MSRP says $60,245 - Is this accurate? How low should one ask for?
 
2. One of the other forums on this board has whole bunch of people crying out about the problems with X5 .. how common are these? This is my first BMW, and after investing $60K in a car, the last thing I want is regular trip to dealer!
 
3. Any other insights?
 
Thanks! Homer ..
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Re: Is this deal worth it? (in Dallas) [homerjb] by tpjcourtney
Dec 05, 2005 (7:33 am)
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Replying to: homerjb (Dec 03, 2005 10:30 pm)

To question #1, I believe each dealer is charged a fee for training/advertising called MACO??? on top of invoice. It was $300 when I bought our X5, but is different in other areas of the country. Besides that, everything else listed as invoice here, or on any other website, was correct. Obviously, the dealer could choose to absorb this cost, but don't count on it.
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X5 3.0 with no package? by outra2law
Dec 16, 2005 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: tpjcourtney (Dec 05, 2005 7:33 am)

Hi, is it possible to get a X5 3.0 with no packages out there?
will the msrp 42500 be my price?
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Re: X5 3.0 with no package? [outra2law] by bdr127
Dec 16, 2005 (7:21 pm)
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Replying to: outra2law (Dec 16, 2005 3:29 pm)

No packages with manual transmission?.... There are 0 in the entire country, including ones in production and in transit.
 
To get this vehicle, you would have to special order and probably give a L A R G E, non-refundable deposit... because the dealer does NOT want to get stuck with that. (And if you lease, he'll looove getting that back at lease turn-in... )
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X5 3.0 Lease by cmcfarling
Dec 23, 2005 (7:47 am)
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I just leased a...
 
2006 X5 3.0i
White/Truffle
MSRP: $49370
Cold weather pkg
Premium pkg
Rear climate pkg
Auto trans
Heated steering wheel
24mo/10000mi
 
for $643/mo. Sales price was $46694. The deal included a $300 transport fee since they didn't have the car on the lot. The initial "deal" was $700/mo. I found a much better deal ($655/mo) at a dealership a couple hours away on a slightly better car (Xenon lights & diming mirrors). My local dealer finally came down to match that same rate to the car they had, which came out to $643/mo.
 
It pays to shop around!

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