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BMW X5, SUV
Jul 04, 2004 (5:55 am)
Hello: Need opinions on if we're getting scammed...We are negotiating on the above vehicle w/options and dest MSRP of 50970. Dealer agreed to $2400 off the MSRP to bring price to $48570. He took our credit card # for a $1000 down payment, but has not yet charged the card. We want specific color combos and he said that he located the vehicle (coming off the mfr line) and could get it at the agreed upon price. We agree on pricing, date, etc and are looking forward to getting the vehicle next week. THEN, the salesman calls back yesterday (one day after deal made) and said that the vehicle was "released" from BMW mfr and is now on a truck to another dealer. He said that NOW they will have to pay $500 to a flat-bed trucking company to transport the vehicle from NJ to VA. He says we would have to pay extra $500. Meanwhile, he is unable to explain to us what the $695 dest fee includes and why we would have to pay extra. We are prepared to pay cash for a vehicle and this is the 3rd dealer we've talked to...the others were slow to respond for requests...unless we wanted to purchase off the lot. This is a "dream vehicle" and will be kept for 8 to 10 years. We want a certain exterior and interior color combo that is not currently on the lot of these 3 dealers. When we bought a 325Ci last year, the VA dealer had to get from another dealer in NJ, but didn't try to charge extra fees. Is the extra $500 pure dealer profit? It gives me a bad taste in my mouth! Thanks for your input!
#47 of 2444 Re: 2004 X5 3.0 [martini4me #46]
Jul 04, 2004 (7:44 pm)
It depends on the relationship between the dealers in NJ and VA and how desperate the dealer wants to sell the car. I bought my E class about the same time two years ago and my dealer (also in VA) had to transport my car from a dealer in NJ. Since the new year models were coming and the NJ dealer was their sister dealer, my dealer paid the transportation fee out of their expense. The destination fee is from the manufacture to the first dealer, in your case it's to the NJ dealer. My cousin had to choose one from the dealder's lot since his dealer would charge him the transportation fee, so I think it is common that dealers ask this. If you have time, I would suggest you wait a little longer as dealer would most likely do whatever it takes to move the '04 model out as '05 models are arriving. I remember there was $3000 - $3500 rebate on X5 last fall for '03 model. Hope this help.
#48 of 2444 Tell the dealer to eat it or beat it
Jul 06, 2004 (2:30 pm)
Besides my own experience($3200 off MSRP on a lower-priced vehicle), there're plenty of other people who purchased X5 at similar savings. Considering that your dealer only gave you $2400 off MSRP to begin with, it's not unreasonable to ask him to eat the $500 cost of transporting the car to the dealership. Get your contract void and find another dealer who will do the deal(and possibly get you more than $2400 off MSRP).
#49 of 2444 Re: $1000 above invoice is a good deal [compwhiz]
Jul 07, 2004 (10:23 pm)
Wow, that's a great deal you got compwhiz. I am planning to buy X5 3.0 myself but I have to wait another couple of months. Looks like there are some incentives from BMW to dealers that everyone seems to be getting a good price on X5s.
BTW, could you share your dealer's info?
#50 of 2444 Pricing for X5 4.4
Jul 11, 2004 (12:53 pm)
I'm about to start the process of buying an X5. Here is the package I'm looking for and the Edmunds price information. Interested to hear back from anyone on how much over invoice I can expect to pay. I'm in northern NJ. Also interested in BMW dealer recommendations in northern NJ. Thanks.
2004 BMW X5 4.4i AWD 4dr SUV (4.4L 8cyl 6A)
ZPP Premium Package (w/on-board computer)
ZSP Sport Package
677 Premium Hi-Fi Sound System w/ DSP
ZCW Cold Weather Package
ZRC Rear Climate Package
261 Rear Door Mounted Side Impact Airbags
438 Dark Poplar Wood Interior Trim
Total Package price:
Jul 11, 2004 (7:10 pm)
My Dad paid $1K over invoice on a ordered 3.0i back in February. I hear the deals on the X5 are much better on the Inline 6 than they are on the V8. I guess maybe it has to do with the V8s being allocated to the 7s & 5s before they reach Spartanburg, SC.
My Dad bought his X5 from Wide World of Cars in Spring Valley, NY (very close to the NJ border). The people at Prestige BMW (on Rte 17 SOuth) were offering a great deal as well, Wide World matched the price and it is closer to my Dad. Park Ave BMW didn't want to be bothered if I didn't take a vehicle from their lot. However, a customer of mine recently leased a new 530iA from them for his wife and was treated fairly and got a good deal YMMV. Good Luck!
#52 of 2444 Re: $1000 above invoice is a good deal [h2fan]
Jul 12, 2004 (10:48 am)
My dealer is Patrick BMW in Schaumburg, IL. You gotta find a right salesperson though - my guy is plain awesome, while some salesmen out there are way too rude and uncooperative.
#53 of 2444 Re: Pricing [nyccarguy #51]
Jul 12, 2004 (10:50 am)
It all depends. Many dealers "pride" themselves on selling X5 4.8is MSRP(and not over it), yet I've seen cases of people buying it for $2-3k off. X5 4.4 should yield at least $3300 off sticker as well.
#55 of 2444 Re: Pricing [compwhiz]
Jul 13, 2004 (7:00 pm)
Thanks for replies on my X5 pricing question. Got three bids from local dealers, all over the net. Best price is $1,250 over what Edmunds shows as their invoice, $3,915 off of BMW MSRP.
For my package the MSRP is $59,880. Of that accessories are $7,780. Should there be more to squeeze because of the high amount of accessories MSRP, or is $1,250 over their invoice as good as I can expect before getting in the showroom?