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BMW X5, SUV
#2391 of 2444 Re: X5D price in DC area [novax5d]
Dec 09, 2012 (6:48 am)
(1) Navigation and resale: The fact that you asked about extended warranties at the end of your post suggests that you are planning on keeping the vehicle more than 4-5 years. At that point, having nav or not may not be that big of a deal on resale. And I don't think it's prudent to make option selections that you don't really want just for long term resale. That said, I find the navigation system especially helpful in the DC region if you need to route around traffic jams, accidents, etc. in strange neighborhoods. But that's for you to decide.
(2) Ventilated seats: Haven't tried them myself. But, like I said, we really wanted the oyster interior. It looks great with the Black Sapphire (or dark grey) exterior. I would recommend you try them if at all possible, even in another BMW other than the X5. I had one friend tell me that another brand (MB maybe) had ventilated seats that actually made his back get stiff and the air temperature could not be adjusted.
(3) Suspension: Sport activity package keeps standard suspension. There is an active drive sport suspension option for around $3,000. It is overkill, IMO. The SAP does include 19" wheels with lower profile tires. I test drove everything in the market and the BMW with the SAP/standard suspension handled much better than the Q7, ML350, Touareg,. The ML even had MB's dynamic handling package ($5k) and it wasn't as tight as the X5d with SAP. The only one that handled the same/better was the Cayenne/Cayenne GTS. I would even avoid the 20" wider tire upgrade ($900 on top of SAP). I drove one at Fairfax and it may have handled very, very slightly better, but unless you are on a track, you wouldn't notice it in daily driving. You would notice the extra tire expense when you have to replace a $1,500 set every 20-25k miles.
(4) Extended warranty: Between the price of the extended warranty and extended maintenance, I was looking at something like $5k to go from 4/50 to 6/100. Way too much, IMO. On the maintenance, I have a very good independent mechanic that can do brakes and other maintenance items for 60% of the cost at the dealer. I stuck with the standard warranty, figuring if there are any issues, they should surface in the first 4 years/50k.
(5) Price / Dealer: The credits seem to change daily, so I think you have a good price, but just work your way down from $500-$1,000 over invoice (2013 MY, I assume). Is the eco-credit down to $3,000 on your quotes? Also, I went to Fairfax for their Olympic promotion back in June and they forgot how to return a call or e-mail afterwards. Horrific follow up and I've heard bad things about service. They clearly didn't want me to order a car; they wanted to clear out their lot of X5d's in bad colors. I took the $1,000 BMW coupon to Silver Spring and got a great deal and follow up from sales manager. Haven't needed service yet, but friends go there (not Rockville) and have positive referrals. Rockville (VOB) has a bad reputation and obnoxious attitude. As in, "we have 20 X5d's in stock, none with SAP because nobody wants that". I did. I think Passport is OK if you can get there from here. Not too convenient for me.
#2392 of 2444 Re: X5D price in DC area [habitat1]
Dec 09, 2012 (11:11 pm)
Upon further consideration, I see your point about the premium package vs. the comfort access. I think I will have to get the premium package...
Also, the sport activity with the multi-contour also seems like the way to go because then I can get the cinnamon brown with the red exterior.
The Passport sales person was the most helpful and easily contacted. Passport is very inconvenient for me, but really the only convenient dealer is Fairfax and they won't even return my phone calls. I kept hearing "we will get back to you by tomorrow" and then nothing at all.
Yeah, I have a little guy and we're buying the car to be able to cart around more than 2 little guys with their car seats... I'm not sure how much I want them destroying my car regularly, but I kind of love the 35D torque... Definitely can't do any interior that is too light (such as oyster) because I am afraid of the stains that the little guy might make.
I was debating about the heads up display because I'm putting the premium package on. Seems like the directions on your screen in front of you would be cool and probably safer. And I like the idea of the side cameras. But this purchase seems to just be climbing in price...
I think I am settled on premium, sports, multicontour, 3rd row...
Can you tell me who your "good independent mechanic" is?
#2393 of 2444 Re: X5D price in DC area [novax5d]
Dec 10, 2012 (4:14 am)
Unless you drive more than 12,500 miles a year, you won't really need an independent mechanic until 2017, given the 4/50 included maintenance by BMW. Ours for our "regular" cars (Acura, BMW) is D&D in Silver Spring. For my former, and possibly future, Porsche, it's Intersport in Tysons.
Regarding the cinnamon brown and red color combination, someone else posted awhile back that they picked this combo off of a photo and then it looked different when the vehicle arrived. They were trying to cancel their order as a result. Photo's of black, oyster and beige are pretty similar, but I've seen photo's of the cinnamon that ranged from brown to orange to pink. If you haven't already done so, I definitely this is a color combo you want to see in person in daylight.
We passed on both the technology and premium sound packages. No regrets on either decision there.
#2394 of 2444 x5d with M Sport package
Dec 12, 2012 (9:34 am)
Is it not possible to get the M Sport package on a X5d? I can only add it to a X5 3.5 Sport Activity on bmwusa.com
#2395 of 2444 Opinions wanted on X5 Diesel Costco pricing
Dec 14, 2012 (9:35 am)
Any and all comments on the following are greatly appreciated. Here is what I recieved today from a dealer on Costco pricing:
2013 X5 Diesel: Costco arrangement is for $800 over invoice
MSRP Base: 56,700
Premium Pkg: 3,600
Cold Weather Pkg: 750
Prem. Sound: 950
Running Boards: 300
Space-Saver Spare: 150
Since he did not have any 2013s on the lot he figured MSRP at 7% above invoice (actual number will be verified), so his invoice figure was 59061. For some reason, his invoice+800 number was 59,761.27
Pretax 56,761.27 (eco credit of $3000 applied)
Dealer doc fee: 599
License and misc fees: 39
7% tax in my county: 61413.21
less holiday credit and loyalty 2250
Out the door: 59,163.21
How much better than $800 over invoice could I do assuming it's a car that the dealer would be ordering for me and is it correct that the holiday credit and loyalty credit come off after-tax rather than pre-tax. Also, shouldn't the eco credit be $4500 rather than $3000?
Thanks for any and all replies!
#2396 of 2444 Re: Opinions wanted on X5 Diesel Costco pricing [astlaw]
Dec 14, 2012 (3:45 pm)
I think $800 over invoice on a customer ordered 2013 is a pretty good deal. Although the dealer doc fee of $599 is very high. That essentially makes the deal $1,400 over invoice which is not so good. My dealer charged $199.
Apparently the eco-credit has been reduced to $3,000 from $4,500. Sorry about that, but that's still better than the $2,500 it had been prior to May/June on the 2012's. I figured the $4,500 wouldn't last forever. Plus having a 2013 vs. 2012 MY is worth something extra at trade in or resale time.
You might want to add BMW Apps to your option list, IMO. Pretty cheap and a good way to integrate your i-phone or android to telemetrics.
All credits were taken off my pre-tax price, so push your dealer on that one. You are paying 7% tax on an extra $2,250; that's $157.50 that will fill the diesel tank a couple of times.
#2397 of 2444 Re: Opinions wanted on X5 Diesel Costco pricing [habitat1]
Dec 14, 2012 (4:04 pm)
Wow, thanks so much for your very detailed answer. Unfortunately in Atlanta where I am all of the dealers seem to have their doc fee at $599 and are unwilling to change that line item. Maybe elsewhere there's room. I'll see what I can do but thanks again for the good advice.
Any opinion on whether premium sound pkg is worth $$ rather than standalone satellite? Upgraded stereo worth another $600?
#2398 of 2444 Finally Ordered!
Dec 16, 2012 (2:06 am)
Well, we finally did it! We ordered our new X5 Premium (gas). Our price was $200 over invoice. One thing to watch out for is that some dealers tried to sell me $X over invoice, but would try to charge retail for every option. My price was invoice for the car, invoice for every option/package, + $200. The MSRP is $65420. Our price came out to $60925. This includes the "new" ZC3 convenience package with the soft close doors (Edmunds is still listing the ZCV package, which is out of production), the luxury seating package, the technology package, premium sound package, running boards, BMW apps, Space-Saver Spare, BMW's handling fee of $895 and MACO fee of $380. Our dealer offers free any time car washes and free loaner cars, along with the normal maintenance, etc. We are thrilled with our purchase and would recommend them any time! I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share the dealer's information here, so PM me if you would like further. We are in Southern California. We decided to lease it through BMW, so we could take advantage of the holiday incentive of $1500 (after our price). Also, I read some posters are being charged a high doc fee. Ours is only $80. I hope this helps someone out.
#2399 of 2444 Re: Opinions wanted on X5 Diesel Costco pricing [astlaw]
Dec 16, 2012 (2:10 pm)
Premium sound is really in the ears of the beholder. We didn't go for it as I thought the standard system was good enough and didn't hear that much of a difference. But you should listen for yourself.
#2400 of 2444 BMW X5 2013 PRICING
Dec 27, 2012 (9:03 pm)
I just got a price for the BMW X5 SAP for $60,130 - $1,500 (with BMW finance) with Space Gray Metallic, Black 'nevada' Leather.
-Cold Weather Package
-Sport Package with Multi-contour seats
And I have a trade-in for $8,500
I live in Chicago.
Is this a good price? Thank you.