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BMW X5, SUV
#2358 of 2444 X5d vs. X5 4.8i
Nov 19, 2012 (5:31 am)
A friend of mine looking to replace his 2008 X5 4.8i came over Saturday to take a look at our 2012 X5d and we drove each others' vehicle to the dealership 15 miles away.
I know the latest X5 5.0i is an upgrade in power from the 4.8i, but I was still surprised that the 2012 X5d feels every bit as powerful as the 4.8i at speeds that ranged from 20 to 80. It prompted me to look up some road tests to make sure it wasn't just wishful thinking on my part. Sure enough, MotorWeek agreed when they tested the X5d in 2009: http://www.motorweek.org/reviews/road_tests/2009_bmw_335d_2009_bmw_x5_xdrive35d
I'm going to predict that in 5 years (2017 model year), we may not have any more gas X5 models from BMW. The M-diesel that is available in Europe can match the performance of a gasoline X5M, while getting considerably better fuel economy than an X5 3.5i.
I'm trying to decide whether to take advantage of BMW's holiday credit to buy a 2013 M3. And pay a gas guzzler tax of $1,300 for the privilege of having a naturally aspirated V8 with a 8,300 rpm redline. To me, the 2014 M3 with a triple turbo 6 cylinder that will get 30% better gas mileage, but at the expense of some serious sports car "soul", is a tough trade-off. I believe that the V8 will become a bit of a purist classic, similar to the old air cooled 993 model 911's. . But for a 5,300 lb SUV that still handles better than some sport sedans, going all diesel makes all the sense in the world. As my buddy said, nothing nostalgic about a X5 4.8i that gets 10 mpg in the city and gets beat on the Beltway passing lane by a X5d.
#2359 of 2444 My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012
Nov 19, 2012 (1:04 pm)
MSRP $61, 345(or something like that)
Started deductions at $57k invoice
$4500 eco credit
$1500 holiday credit
$1000 usaa credit
$750 BMW loyalty credit
$500 BMW app credit
Did some additional negotiating to get to a number I was happy with. Signed paper work and drove off happy as could be. Had another dealership competing for my business as well. Better deal won but had a great experience with both dealerships.
#2360 of 2444 Re: My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012 [riloh05]
Nov 19, 2012 (8:25 pm)
Thats a great deal, but not sure how you got to that bottom line. You've listed $8250 in credits; taking those off of the invoice would put you at $48,750, befor any "additional negotiating".
Also did you lease or buy? The BMW website lists the holiday credit of $1,500 only for a lease, not a purchase.
#2361 of 2444 Re: My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012 [habitat1]
Nov 19, 2012 (8:41 pm)
I leased and I ended up below the number you listed. There was 2850(roughly) in avp or avb money, hence the additional negotiation.
#2362 of 2444 Re: My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012 [riloh05]
Nov 21, 2012 (8:29 am)
Hello! Did you get the 2012 or the 2013? You did good!
#2363 of 2444 Re: My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012 [chloe9415]
Nov 21, 2012 (8:38 am)
2012. I am not sure if the 13 diesels are out yet.
#2364 of 2444 Re: My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012 [riloh05]
Nov 25, 2012 (9:29 pm)
congrats. awesome deal. i am shopping for '12 x35d. what is apv or apb money?
#2365 of 2444 Re: My X5 35d deal 11.17.2012 [victorx]
Nov 26, 2012 (8:04 am)
I do not quite know the exact details but I do know it contains holdback... and that was the additional that I was able to negotiate to close the deal. Good luck and we can not be happier with our X5 35d.
#2366 of 2444 X5 35D DEMO DEAL
Nov 27, 2012 (9:05 pm)
I am looking to purchase demo 2012 X5 35d with 9,000 miles.
Original MSRP was around $65,000.
What deal can i get.
#2367 of 2444 Re: X5 35D DEMO DEAL [konradlv]
Nov 28, 2012 (6:01 am)
Personally, I would pay no more than $45-47k.
With the current incentives, you could order a brand new X5d to your exact specifications for close to $10,000 off MSRP ($4,500 eco credit, $1,500 holiday & other credits, plus dealer discounts to $500-$1000 over invoice BEFORE applying those BMW credits). That would put you at $55,000 for the equivalent brand new car, with the new car smell and only you to blame if it isn't broken in properly. Not to mention that if you order a new car, you have the option of (free) Performance Delivery Center pick-up like I did with our X5d in September - a truly great experience.
I know asking the dealer to take another $8-10k off for a demo with 9,000 miles is likely to get a "stick it" response. However, that's the only way I would take a used car that every TD&H has driven, likely without any regard to proper break-in procedures. I'd actually rather buy a used car from a private responsible owner than a dealer demo. At $8-10k off, that's a decent discount and, if you are comfortable that this is a respectable/responsible dealership that has taken care to make sure the vehicle wasn't abused, is a fair deal.
A price of $50k+ would be an insult to my - and hopefully your - intelligence. Unfortunately, there are enough uniformed buyers that might think $12-15k off MSRP on a dealer demo is a great deal - without realizing that they could get $10k off on a brand new, custom ordered vehicle. And if the dealer can sucker one of them in to take a demo for $52k, your $45k offer is likely to elicit a laugh. In which case, order a new one and plan a trip to Spartanburg.