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BMW X5 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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Re: 2005 X5 3.0i LEASE [mannydom] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 24, 2005 (8:39 am)
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Replying to: mannydom (Mar 24, 2005 8:32 am)

$800 over invoice is dirt cheap..
 
Residuals are set by BMWFS and can't be adjusted (I'm assuming 3yr/45K?).
 
Are you waiving the security deposit? .00025 is a strange MF bump up for a dealer....
 
Make sure the acquisition fee is not marked up ($625 is base, everywhere but NY).
 
The only negotiation room I see is the MF, but at only $800 over invoice, they may be solid on that number...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: 2005 X5 3.0i LEASE [kyfdx] by mannydom
Mar 24, 2005 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 24, 2005 8:39 am)

thanks, kyfdx
 
MF is .00150 not .00025
 
i'm not sure where and how security deposit comes into play in the scheme of things...please explain
 
is the destination charge already factored in the net cap cost? how may the dealer's calculation of monthly payment differ from mine?
 
sorry for all the ????
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Re: BUY OR LEASE? [kyfdx] by bmw4sue
Mar 24, 2005 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 22, 2005 6:59 am)

Thank you so much for your kind response. I didn't know how to direct my query to you!!
 
Truth of the matter is, I really want to purchase. I have never leased before & I would prefer not to, just because I have always been told it costs so much more in the long run. However, if you think otherwise, I would be grateful to hear your input.
 
If I decide to buy and if I can manage to put a $10K down pymt on an X5 for approx. $45K, do you think I could get a monthly pymt. of roughly $500 for 48 months? I realize there are other factors to consider, but I do have excellent credit and should be able to get very low APR from my bank. Does that help?
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Re: 2005 X5 3.0i LEASE [mannydom] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 24, 2005 (8:27 pm)
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Replying to: mannydom (Mar 24, 2005 7:37 pm)

What I mean is.. the base MF is .00125.. The dealer had to bump up the money factor by .00025 to get the .0015 He is charging you a higher money factor than the lowest rate available..
 
The destination charge is part of the MSRP and the invoice.. Just consider it a part of the base price.. It shouldn't enter into your negotiated price (IOW, they shouldn't be adding it on anywhere).
 
Just watch out for any garbage fees (document fee, dealer prep, etc..)
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Re: BUY OR LEASE? [bmw4sue] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 24, 2005 (8:39 pm)
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Replying to: bmw4sue (Mar 24, 2005 8:14 pm)

At 4.5% for 60 months, you can only borrow about $27K, and still keep your payments at $500/mo.
 So, even with $10K down, your payment will be more than $500/mo on an X5...
 
For that kind of payment, you should be looking at SUVs in the $32K-$36K range... Honda Pilots and Toyota Highlanders come to mind.... They have very aggressive deals on Pilots right now, and those are great vehicles with good re-sale.
 
If that is your budget, an X5 might just be too expensive.. Leasing is just an alternate form of financing... If you can't afford to buy a certain vehicle, I wouldn't suggest leasing it, just to get the payment down..
 
If you borrow $35K for 60 months, you are looking at a payment of $650/mo or more...
 
regards,
kyfdx
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2005 X5 at $500 over invoice by gnailuh
Mar 25, 2005 (3:53 pm)
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Hey, I just ordered my 2005 X5 3.0i at $500 over invoice. Including:
 
Prem
Auto
Cold
Dimming miorros
Xenon
PDC
 
Do dealers usually break out the MACO charge when doing $X over invoice? I paid $500 over and the MACO, which $380. So I'm trying to see if I really got $500 over, or $880 over. From what I gather, MACO is separate when you go with invoice.
 
Can't wait... 6 more weeks I hope.
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Re: 2005 X5 at $500 over invoice [gnailuh] by mannydom
Mar 25, 2005 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: gnailuh (Mar 25, 2005 3:53 pm)

with regard to invoice price versus MSRP...is this the same invoice amount described in, say for example, edmunds or kelley...i.e. are dealers using the same invoice prices?
 
what is the MACO charge?
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Re: 2005 X5 at $500 over invoice [gnailuh] by mannydom
Mar 25, 2005 (9:39 pm)
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Replying to: gnailuh (Mar 25, 2005 3:53 pm)

was the invoice price you paid for the same price as in edmunds or kelley? did you see the actual invoice sheet?
 
did you get gap insurance?
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Buying a BMW for the first time by rtirro
Mar 26, 2005 (6:39 pm)
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my wife and i test drove many suv's and finally decided on the X5 3.0i. the salesman at the dealership here in Maine said that they do not discount 3.0s. We want:
auto
prem pkg
cold
prem stereo
xenon lights
MSRP $48...
lease payment of $748 w/$3500 due at signing
Should we go to another state, ie Mass or NH since they are close enough. How will that affect the 4yr service? OR can we still nego w/ this dealer and how
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Re: 2005 X5 3.0i LEASE [mannydom] by mannydom
Mar 26, 2005 (11:03 pm)
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Replying to: mannydom (Mar 21, 2005 8:40 pm)

to kyfdx and anyone else who can help me...
 
still on my first lease experience...
 
2005 X5 3.0 only auto transmission as option
MSRP $43670
selling price $40810 ($800 over invoice)
15K miles/year 36 months
money factor .00125 (3.0%)
residual 58%
acquisition fee $625
sales tax 8.75%
 
my calculation on monthly payment is $577 (using leaseguide.com calculator)...is my calculation correct or is his correct?
 
dealer's calculation is $627...he says state of illinois (i'm in illinois) and another state calculates lease payment different from the other 48 states so he doubts reliability of leaseguide.com calculator...i do not see why i should not believe him but why is my calculation different from his
 
i did my homework...i thought leasing would be fun
please advise...please

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