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#1547 of 2564 Re: SOS! 2010 ACURA MDX ADV or 2011 BMW X5 35iP [simonsmom2]
Jun 28, 2010 (1:19 pm)
I just went through the same ordeal. My wife & I are soon running out on a lease of a '07 BMW X3 (2nd one already) that we both really liked but felt that we've outgrown it now with 2 kids & occasional family guest(s) on weekends. So since I'm also a Honda/Acura "man" (from the past) we've considered a pre-owned MDX ...but after taking it for a drive and a much closer look at how that SUV felt all-around, I didn't feel its "value" in that $ range - it was flimsy and hollow in comparison; just shut the door and the entire roof pops-up about an inch!... the hood seams like a meager little lid, but it does weight 400lb less.
We considered a cert. '08 MDX w/ Tech pkg. for $40k+ …but NO roof-rails?!?!...or running-boards, or $50+K for a new one – that’s a LOT for a Honda in a “fancy dress” …plus all the maintenance costs right from the start.
For the same $ you can get into ’07 X5, but it was impossible to find the color/opt.combo we wanted w/ low ml, so after I learned that 2011 got a new 300hp 3L-turbo (finally) …that is as fast as the old V8 but burns less fuel as the old I6, we’ve decided it made sense to order exactly what we wanted for the “long-haul” (8-10 years) and went for it. $57K for Premium Pkg (White/Cinnamon int.) w/ 3rd-row + running boards. Instead of going with a lease again (that lately suck) we took the signature-loan where you pay the rest of your “down-pay” at the end of your loan if you want to keep it or trade-it in like you own it. Our “load-down”: $12k down + $500/m (60m)+ $22k at the end (w/ NJ tax) …but you’ll love the $0 maintenance for 4y/50k valued at ~$3K.
As a warning! once you get used to a Bimmer driving-dynamics, quality & service (I also own a used 2006 330i that seems as new for 1/2 the price) you will have a very hard time in trying to justify going Japanese for a few $K less. BTW since before X3, we had a 2001A4 Avant (it was ok, but nothing great) so we test drove the Q5 which looks great, nice size, but handles like any other “Toyota” for way more $ …and Q7 just too big & "in your face". There are many fine vehicles out there to compare, but NONE have that specific BMW driving “feel” in my opinion – unfortunately it takes a little more than a “lame” test-drive to truly appreciate that.
Even my wife is hooked on it, and feels everything else handles like a mini-bus.
GOOD LUCK in your decision - either way you'll be driving above all in this class; after all I don't want to see everybody else driving Bimmers ...just kidding.
#1548 of 2564 Re: SOS! 2010 ACURA MDX ADV or 2011 BMW X5 35iP [bimmervoy]
Jun 28, 2010 (1:01 pm)
I must concur. As a former Acura and Honda owner, I must say that Honda MoCo has the value and utility equation dead to balls. Sadly, they are BORING beyond imagination. At least Lexus can bore me with silence and quality but not Honda/Acura.
I learned (never too late) that being saddled with a boring but handy vehicle that saved me a buck is not worth it. Unless you just start your car and simply drive to where you need to go with no other concern, get the Bimmer.
#1549 of 2564 Acura MDX or BMW X5
Jun 29, 2010 (5:02 am)
We went through similar analysis and have ended up ordering the X5 (also Alpine White/Cinnamon) -- can't wait to get it. I have loved my prior two MDXs but just couldn't bare the thought of getting yet another one (imho no other SUVs came close to these two in offering what we wanted at a price we were willing to pay. Also, the new MDXs just didn't have the same luxurious feel that the older models had; the BMW just seems more solid... and fun! I was ready for a change to the sportier ride. We're skipping the third row this time (both MDX and X5 have made them too small to help us out too much these days). Having said all that the MDX priced out about 12000 less and it is still a great car. Perhaps if I hadn't already owned those for the last 10 years.... Good luck.
#1550 of 2564 Re: SOS! 2010 ACURA MDX ADV or 2011 BMW X5 35iP [bimmervoy]
Jun 29, 2010 (7:11 am)
CORRECTION: I forgot that we also ordered the 3 pkg's: Cold-Weather+Tech+Convenience ...I guess I thought there were part of the "Premium". I was also considering the "Keyless entry" but my wife didn't care for it - too magical for her ...plus its another Grand.
#1551 of 2564 Re: SOS! 2010 ACURA MDX ADV or 2011 BMW X5 35iP [bimmervoy]
Jun 30, 2010 (7:40 pm)
bimmervoy - Is the signature loan available through BMW or you had to go through a CU/Bank? Looks like a great alternative to leasing.
#1552 of 2564 2011 X5 35d offer
Jul 01, 2010 (6:01 am)
I got the following offer for an ordering 2011 X5 35d. Is this a good deal or can I do better? I am in the Philadelphia, PA area.
ZPP Premium Package
ZTP Technology Package
ZAP Sport Activity Package
2LE Sport Activity Package 20" Wheel/Tire Upgrade
ZCW Cold Weather Package
ZRC Rear Climate Package
6FL iPod and USB Adapter
456 Multi-contour seats
655 Sirius Satellite Radio w/1 Year Subscription
328 Running Boards
300 Space-Saver Spare Tire
My offer: $61,725 plus taxes, tags as well as floor mats and wheel locks. Deducting the Eco-credit of $4500 brings the price down to $57,225.
#1553 of 2564 The wrong message!
Jul 01, 2010 (8:38 pm)
I finalized a negotiated price of $52,800 without the $4500.00 Credit Option and got the message that is below. Was that right? Do I still have the right to dispute this though it via e-mail? No papers were signed only the price was negotiated via e-mail. I had this experience with two dealer in New Jersey.
It's me! Below is the quote that I sent you on the diesel:
2011 BMW X5 xDrive35d
Prem. Pkg. (req. for Technology Pkg.)
Heated Front Seats
ePRICE - $52800.00* tax and mtr. veh. doc. fees (Doc. Fee - $269.00)
*Above quote reflects "Diesel Option Credit" in the amount of $4500.00 good through 6/30/10.
Jul 02, 2010 (6:37 am)
I am shopping around for X5 as well. Not sure if I want to order diesel or gasoline.
Even though diesel is expensive, hopefully the extra miles it gives will compensate it but my main concern is the engine sound. How quiet is the diesel when compared to gasoline? I am sure it will be noisier but how bad is it? I have a smaller 2003 3 series and I love it. I am assuming I can expect the same amount of fun in a bigger and newer 2011 X5. Any comments?
I seriously considered MDX with a "value" proposition but I think after driving my 325 for about 5 years, I don't want to try another make.
Thanks in advance.
#1555 of 2564 Re: X5d vs X5 [sjthomas]
Jul 02, 2010 (7:34 am)
I love my X5d.
From the inside there is essentially no noise difference, particularly since you get 425ft.lbs of torque and do not need to rev the engine so there is less noise if briskly accelerating.
From the outside there is more noise from the diesel. A gentle clatter but never objectionable. I do not drive from outside the vehicle in any case!
#1556 of 2564 Re: X5d vs X5 [00boxsters]
Jul 02, 2010 (7:53 am)
Thanks for the reply. Any comments on the mpg of diesel?