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#143 of 2565 Help with purchase re:03 X5 3.0
Jan 15, 2005 (6:14 pm)
What is good deal on following:
2003 BMW X5 3.0 13249 miles
Cold Weather Package
Light Green Metallic Paint
Not a CPO; original warranty and maintenance till
9/07. Dealer says it cost them $5,000 to have them CPO, but would be half ($2,500) if I do directly through BMW, says I can do anytime before the warranty runs out. Is this true? Car was purchased at dealership and resold by original owner who left the country to dealership. I plan to verify with Carfax, dealer offered to do it for me. I will be returning as soon as I can come up with price to offer.
Listing Price: $38,895.
Appreciate any feedback and assistance on what price to offer and CPO costs and truths. Also Consumer reports lists that vechicle can lift wheels in high avoidance manuevers. Has anyone experienced this?
Thanks for the help!
#144 of 2565 Re: Help with purchase re:03 X5 3.0 [peppino2]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jan 15, 2005 (8:33 pm)
The extended warranty plan is only available to the original owner or lessee... If they don't CPO the car, and you buy it used, you will NOT be able to add the warranty later...
Their payment to BMW to CPO the vehicle is about $1200.. They may have other costs to bring it up to CPO standards, but in general the total cost is only $1500-$2500... and probably on the low end, considering that car only has 13K miles.
It sounds like they don't want to CPO the car.. Probably one of three reasons..
1) With the low mileage, they think they can sell it easier without the CPO.
2) They sense price resistance from you, and think they can't get the CPO cost back on purchase.
3) There is something that disqualifies the car from the CPO program. (prior major body damage, manufacturer buyback, etc..)
The $5K BS, and the "prior owner left the country", and the misinformation about buying the CPO warranty later... Those would all make me very nervous about this car and this dealer.
#145 of 2565 Re: Help with purchase re:03 X5 3.0 [kyfdx]
Jan 16, 2005 (5:09 am)
Thank you for the prompt response. I did not give any indication on price resistance as my initial conversation was over the phone. I did a quick test drive of the car later in the day just before the dealer ship closed and did not discuss dollars. Your responses 1) and 3) sound more probable. It sounds like I should push to have the car CPO'ed to remove any doubt as to the car's worthiness. Any suggestion on price if it was CPO'ed? They have lowered the price to $37,985 in an ad in this morning's local paper. I am located in Central (upstate) New York.
#146 of 2565 Re: Help with purchase re:03 X5 3.0 [peppino2]
by kyfdx@Edmunds HOST
Jan 16, 2005 (9:24 am)
I don't really follow the prices of X5s.. So, I'm probably not the best judge of what you should pay...
You might start a search of BMWUSA.com and autotrader, ebay, etc... to get a feel for prices.. Of course, realizing that BMW CPO units usually have unrealistic asking prices..
I might just pass this unit up, considering the response they have given you so far.. If they are unwilling to CPO it, getting them to do it may not enhance your negotiating position..
Are you anywhere near Utica? Carbone BMW has a good reputation, but they are small, and may not have much inventory.. Of course, if that is where you are shopping, then.. never mind..lol
I just don't get any warm fuzzy feelings from the guys you are talking to.. But, of course, that is just from one phone conversation..
One thing I would ask for.. A BMW vehicle history report... The service advisor can print that out in one minute, so don't let them tell you they can't give it to you.. That will have all info on warranty expiration (which you already know) and any service issues the car has had... Sometimes those reports can be enlightening... Watch for any white-out and re-copying on the report they give you..
#147 of 2565 Re: Help with purchase re:03 X5 3.0 [kyfdx]
Jan 16, 2005 (3:58 pm)
I did look at the CPO's on BMWNA and they had similar mileage similar option x5's for about the same or $1-3,000 higher. So for the asking price this X% should have been a CPO given the listed (starting price). Thank you for your suggestions. I am not shopping at Carbone,but will look them up.
Jan 18, 2005 (6:28 am)
does anyone know if the pastel green interior is available for US market x5? thanks
Jan 18, 2005 (8:23 am)
Do you mean exterior?
The gray-green is gone.. There are two greens available..
One is called Olivine.. this is a lighter green, and there is Highland Green.. a darker green.. I don't think either look like the old gray-green, though...
Jan 19, 2005 (8:09 am)
i mean pastel green interior, from your response im guessing theyre never available for US market, that sucks
#151 of 2565 price dependancy and gas guzzler
Jan 20, 2005 (5:33 pm)
Can someone explain if either of above are added to purchase price or are included in the msrp price listing. Thank you.
Jan 21, 2005 (9:20 am)
i do think it varies by state, as I heard they decided to drop off the gas guzzler tax here in WA