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BMW X5, SUV
#1329 of 2565 Re: Decent deal? How much better available? [kyfdx]
Sep 27, 2009 (4:18 pm)
Manufacturers of vehicles that are eligible for federal fuel efficiency incentives (hybrids, advanced lean burn engines, etc.) are required to report their sales to the government. Those sales are posted on the IRS website. BMW's sales are posted on the IRS's "Advanced Lean Burn Technology Vehicles Quarterly Sales" page.
It's clear why BMW offered the $4,500 incentive for the diesel X5. As of June 30 (the most recent date for which numbers were published), BMW had only sold 880 diesel X5s and 563 diesel 3 series in the US for the entire year. Those are terrible sales numbers for a manufacturer like BMW.
Diesel sales will probably increase significantly in Q3 this year with the tax credits and incentives, but it's clear that the clean diesel option hasn't caught on in the US.
I bought a diesel X5 and I'm very happy with it. It would be nice for more people to consider clean diesel as an option now that the price points have come down. I just took a trip in the diesel X5, and I got 28.7 mpg in highway (70 mph) and some mixed driving. The vehicle isn't even broken in yet. That's not bad for a 5,300 lb SUV. My 2007 X5 4.8i would barely get 21 mpg highway on a good day.
#1330 of 2565 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences
Sep 27, 2009 (6:34 pm)
I thought it would be good to post here since these forums helped me get a great deal on my last two purchases.
First of all, just test drove 2009 x5 35d-> great car, great torque, love it.
Tried to get a decent offer in Washington state, essentially laughed at.
So, going down to Calabasas, CA for my car. Best price I found in northern and southern california, totally straighforward internet sales manager, made the deal over the phone in less than 15minutes, put the deposit down on my credit card, will receive the car in november.
This is what I ordered:
X5 AWD 4dr 35d
Cold weather package
Invoice $53010, msrp $57,075
Hope this helps, good luck to everyone.
FYI, it is not a big deal to get a car from out of state, shipping cost vary but is usually 500-$1000. I would recommend getting a car from out of state if the local dealers are not willing to deal.
#1331 of 2565 Considering an X5 3.0d
Sep 27, 2009 (6:51 pm)
My Dad is currently leasing his 2nd X5, an '07 3.0si (his first was an '04 3.0i). The lease on his truck is up in February & he's trying to decide what to do about his next vehicle. He does a lot of driving (20K miles per year) and has been leasing cars for business purposes since 1991. As you all know, the X5 is not a cheap vehicle (to lease or buy). He currently pays somewhere in the neighborhood of $930 per month for his X5. His 30 month lease includes 50K miles with a $0 down payment & 8.375% NYC sales tax. He likes the way the X5 drives & the service department at our dealership (Wide World BMW) has been way beyond spectacular.
He doesn't want to spend so much to lease a vehicle anymore. I feel like there is nothing else out there that even comes close to the X5 in this class ($50K - $60K SUV). The Acura MDX is nice, but its rated at 15/20 (not too far off from a V8 powered Tahoe). The Tahoe is nice, but it is an American car so the lease payments are sky high & he's not sure how well it will hold up if he finances it. He won't even look at a Q7 due to prior experience with my Mom's '02 A6. He drove the Mercedes ML (before he got the 2nd X5) which was really nice, until he drove the X5. Now even if he likes the Q7 or ML 350, the BMW still wins because the X5 includes mainteance for 4 years/50K miles.
So we've been talking & I think he's leaing toward a 3rd X5. If this $4500 eco credit thing is going to go on for a while (and it should as BMW is not selling as many diesels as projected), then he's going to drive a diesel X5 & purchase instead of lease this time around.
#1332 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [mednerd]
Sep 28, 2009 (1:43 pm)
Thanks ....that's helpful. I believe the reason they are doing a deals on the 2009 is becasue: a.) the body style changes to the 2010 which will be in production next month and b.) the iDrive interface system is being phased out in 2009 for a better system in 2010. I would encourage you to go on the the CNET page and look at the review of the X5 diesel. They guy really slams the iDrive interface. If you are ok with that, that sounds like a great deal.
#1333 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [bro1o3]
Sep 28, 2009 (3:03 pm)
The eco credit is good on all X5' s til 11/2/09. There are no body changes for 2010 but the iDrive is upgraded. The next body refresh is not due til spring 2010 as an 2011.
#1334 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [00boxsters]
Sep 28, 2009 (5:15 pm)
I thought they were going to refine the front/rear bumpers on the 2010 model year....no? The photos shown on-line refer to the "2010" model year. Nothing dramatic. The bumpers look similar to what is now on the X6.
#1335 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [bro1o3]
Sep 28, 2009 (5:52 pm)
It was rumored but exterior changes being saved for the 2011 model refresh due spring 2010...
#1336 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [mednerd]
Sep 28, 2009 (7:37 pm)
I would recommend getting a car from out of state if the local dealers are not willing to deal.
I am looking into that. Instead of bothering to trade in my X3, sell that locally and buy a Lexus in a market that is actually competitive.
Are you concerned about buying an expensive car sight unseen and are they just going to deliver your car to your doorstep?
#1337 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [pp2009pp]
Oct 01, 2009 (5:04 pm)
For clarification-> the deal I got was for the 2010 X5. The dealership stated that the eco credit was good if ordered by the end of this month and delivery by the end of the year. Also there is an $1800 diesel tax credit!
I am personally picking up my car in los angeles and driving it up to seattle. I have family in the LA area and the drive isn't bad. I was able to get matching deals closer to home also in san jose area and in oregon but decided on LA since I was going there for the week anyhow.
I would not be concerned about buying an expensive car unseen, especially new. If you decide on shipping your car, any reputable shipping company checks for scratches, dings, etc. so that they are not charged for damage to the car. The shipping company picks up the car from the dealership, the paperwork is all done via phone/fax/email/fedex, and drops off the car at your house, or a mutual location. If there are motor issues, with a new car, you will have a warranty.
I used the recommendations from other posters and used the amex car website and put in different zip codes to see approximately what prices each region paid. I also emailed/called all the dealerships in washington and oregon to make sure I got the best deal.
#1338 of 2565 Re: 2010 X5 diesel prices/experiences [mednerd]
Oct 01, 2009 (5:20 pm)
Congrats, good deal and good luck. Get a production date yet?