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Replying to: jaxs1 (Nov 24, 2007 8:49 pm)
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Replying to: asafonov (Nov 26, 2007 7:48 am) |
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Yesterday, I spent most of the day test driving entry level luxury sedans (Audi A4, Acura TL, Infiniti G35x). I also stopped by the Nissan dealership, and test drove the 08 Altima (fully loaded w/ 4 cyl). The Altima, which I know is not a luxury sedan, is priced at $25500 w/o nav. I could see myself driving this car, but would like to make the jump up into the luxury sedan family. I think I have narrowed my choices down to either the Acura or Infiniti. Problem is, the Infiniti is more expensive ($38k w/nav for an '07) than the TL ($32500 w/o navi). It is a beautiful car, however. I also like the fact that it is AWD where the Acura is FWD. I live in So. Wisconsin and need a car that will bet me through our winters. Also, I drive about 22k per year and was being talked into why leasing would benefit me. Not sure of this either! Any help or comments would be greatly appreciated. |
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Replying to: gabenluke (Nov 28, 2007 8:40 am)
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Replying to: suydam (Nov 28, 2007 9:01 am) |
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Replying to: gabenluke (Nov 28, 2007 8:40 am) |
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Replying to: gabenluke (Nov 28, 2007 8:40 am) Ahhh, unless you only plan to keep the vehicle 3 years, there is a special lease rate AND you can get a lease with 25k per year.....DON'T LEASE. |
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Replying to: gabenluke (Nov 28, 2007 8:40 am) Even though Infinity and Acura are fairly reliable, they are not as reliable as your basic appliances such as Accord, Camry, Civic or Corolla. At 22K mi per year you will be over 100K in less than 5 years. Your car will be worth less than $10K. If you keep it, it will cost a lot of money to repair it at the dealer. Most independent mechanics can’t fix luxury cars because they don’t have the necessary equipment. Currently I drive 04 Acura TL, and I put only 8K a year on it. Minor service, such as oil change and tire rotation, is $75. Intermediate service at 15K was $260. Major service, at 30K and 60K, will be over $700, and you will have to do it every other year or less. To machine the rotors - $190. And don’t forget the tires. I just replaced the tires on my TL at 30K mi for $900 at Costco. Sport tires cost much more and last only 25K miles. Can you afford $900 for tires just about every year? I just took a job where I’ll be putting about 20K mi per year on my TL. Trust me, this TL will be my last luxury car, next car will be a Civic. I recently had a rental Civic for a week and I didn’t miss my TL all that much. My advice would be is to buy yourself an appliance for under $20K and make an Infinity payment on it. After three years when the appliance is paid off, you can buy a toy that you can use on weekends and keep driving the appliance to work. This way, your toy will last you over 10 years.
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Replying to: exb0 (Nov 28, 2007 11:02 am) |
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Here are the two quotes: '08 Outback 2.5i automatic for $21,374 '05 Outback 2.5i automatic with 41k miles, certified pre-owned (so remainder of 6 year 100k mile warranty is intact) for $16,700 I've asked other dealers to beat the quote for the '08 and no one can - MSRP is 25,400. The '05 price is what's listed on the dealer site, so it's obviously flexible but I haven't talked to that dealer yet. The most I would pay for that is 16,000. My original inclination was pre-owned since I'm starting a new job in the summer and will probably walk to work (so won't be driving a ton). The thing that's bugging me is 5k doesnt seem like a big enough difference between a new car and its 3yo equivalent. Any thoughts are appreciated.
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