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#835 of 7481 Re: Looking in Ohio [cher2005] by sipper Apr 02, 2005 (11:05 am)
Replying to: cher2005 (Apr 02, 2005 7:40 am) We went to a newer Toyota dealership here in St. Louis two and a half weeks ago on a Wednesday evening. I wanted a Tideland Pearl 2005 #6 and that's exactly what they said they had coming in on Friday. We picked it up on Saturday for $26,666 plus a flat fee of $199 for "title, filing, preparation & recording". No dickering or upcharges (the dealership HAD been adding an upcharge of $2000 up until about a month ago). I think that Toyota has revved up its manufacturing capabilities and at least for the moment, supply is coming close to equaling demand.   However, the finance manager was quite aggressive in pushing the extended warranty package which we did sign up for, in part because of the newer technology associated with the navigation system. And I'm spoiled rotten so we also opted to replace the fabric covering with full leather for an $1772.
#836 of 7481 Re: [bobraxton]KEEP US INFORMED ON THE TRANSACTION [railroadjames] [bobraxton] by analyticangel Apr 02, 2005 (4:03 pm)
Replying to: bobraxton (Mar 29, 2005 4:22 am) Am I missing something .Why pay with multiple checks.........You have me curious
#837 of 7481 Re: Pkg# 4 Platinum Warranty 7 years Pre-paid Maintenance 4yrs [od18] by dreasdad Apr 04, 2005 (11:14 am)
Replying to: od18 (Mar 29, 2005 3:14 pm) The real reason is that Toyota has almost doubled the amount of Prius being shipped inthe the US. The accord hasn't even made most buyers blink. The civic is availabe with out a wait at most dealers all last year. Honda is a gas - electic hybrid, the gas engine is always running. I still have a list of about 125 people as we never charged a premium over msrp although all three of the closest dealers did and 2 of them wouldn't even put peoples names on a list. With a little looking you should be able to find one some where with out a wait but some dealers will still have a back log like mine so don't get discouraged just keep looking. I am in Central Texas
#838 of 7481 Not Correct, dreasdad.... by larsb Apr 04, 2005 (12:20 pm)
The "Real Reason" Toyota has upped the Prius production has nothing to do with the Accord Hybrid.   Their battery supplier (Panasonic I think?) opened another production facility and they now can meet Toyota's battery demand, something they COULD NOT DO in 2004.   Toyota is meeting demand with additional supply, as the most profitable car company in the world would do.   The Accord Hybrid is not really in competition with the Prius - MSRP is about $10K apart, mileage is 60 versus 37; very VERY few people are going to be shopping both cars..... Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 04, 2005 1:06 pm) dreasdad (Apr 05, 2005 1:05 pm)
#839 of 7481 Re: Not Correct, dreasdad.... [larsb] by gagrice Apr 04, 2005 (1:06 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Apr 04, 2005 12:20 pm) very VERY few people are going to be shopping both cars.....   Why not? Granted the HAH is better performance. I don't think it is any roomier, maybe even less than the Prius. I would think those that are interested in the environment would look at both. Those that aren't would not look at either one.
#840 of 7481 Well, here's why, Gary....:) by larsb Apr 04, 2005 (1:47 pm)
Most people I know shop for "the most car they can afford" which will also meet their transportation needs....Agreed on that premise?   OK. Now, someone shopping for highest mileage available in a 5 passenger car has two options: Prius and HCH. Why would THAT person shop for an Accord Hybrid? Probably would not, based on that criteria, "max mpg."   OK, someone shopping for who wants to "compromise max MPG to get more luxury appointments" but still wants a Hybrid, options are basically Accord Hybrid only (as of today.)   OK, someone who is unusual and might be shopping for a "hybrid" for the sake of saying they own a "hybrid" but does not really care much about clean emissions or maxxing out their MPG, that person MIGHT shop for only an Accord Hybrid.   But to shop both Prius and Accord Hybrid and compare them? How would you compare them, with the price disparity, the luxury disparity, the miles per gallon disparity, and the power disparity? They do not have anything at all in common except:   5 passenger car Hybrid Japanese   Other than that short list, what do these cars have in common? Replies to this message: gagrice (Apr 04, 2005 2:03 pm)
#841 of 7481 Re: Well, here's why, Gary....:) [larsb] by gagrice Apr 04, 2005 (2:03 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Apr 04, 2005 1:47 pm) Other than that short list, what do these cars have in common?   You win that one! I was only thinking the short list of hybrid & 5 passenger. You left out the Honda only and Toyota only factor.
#842 of 7481 This discussion by reuel3 Apr 04, 2005 (4:29 pm)
Let's keep this discussion focused on prices paid and buying experience specific to the Toyota Prius. If you would like to continue the hybrid debate, you may go to one of our topics under the Hybrid Vehicles forum. Toyota Prius v. ??? (fill in the comparison) Hybrids: Toyota Prius vs. Honda Civic Hybrid v. Honda Insight v. ?
#843 of 7481 Re: Not Correct, dreasdad.... [larsb] by dreasdad Apr 05, 2005 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: larsb (Apr 04, 2005 12:20 pm) Most of the batteries from the new plant are going to the Highlanders, if you look at the production numbers for the Prius little has changed in actual production, but shipments to the rest of the world are almost cut in half. The Prius didn't sell very well in countries like Ireland wherte they tax on the size of engine and not the sales price

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