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Replying to: tiff_c (May 06, 2009 3:13 am) |
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 06, 2009 10:12 am) At least I am not ignorant of diesels. but you most likely read only US related things. Diesel will be higher because of higher taxes on it. Also how many diesel cars have you owned? Driven? I lived in Asia for 5 years I drove a lot of diesels and I owned a Toyota Diesel Hi-Lux. You are spewing misinformation when you talk about smell and gelling and costs are high right now, but would come down if more is made. Also most diesels get far better fuel economy than hybrids... just not the ones they bring to the US. The few diesels that are sold here are unreliable VW's (engine good, rest of car bad) If you haven't driven diesels in other countries, I suggest that when you graduate high school you travel extensively as I have and try cars that you can't buy in the US. You would probably change your mind, since diesel is cheaper than regular gas in many countries. Gelling is not an issue since you get a winter blend for it. so unless you are driving a Peterbilt to work it's a non-issue until it's 20-30 below zero. Anyway there is a diesel forum so people can endlessly debate the merits of diesel. I'd buy one but not a VW and I can't justify buying a Merc. The Prius battery gets low in cold weather also, so nothing is perfect. I'll still buy the Prius until they bring over a decent diesel with a realistic price. But you can bathe in ignorance if you like, it's still a free country. 
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 06, 2009 4:43 pm)
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 06, 2009 4:43 pm) |
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 07, 2009 2:40 am) Diesel trucks are nothing like modern diesel cars. Domestic trucks are old technology. The new common rail diesels are a world apart from the current crop of domestic diesel trucks. America only gets old diesel technology. You might as well compare a Model T Ford to a new Lamborghini. It's that big a difference. Hybrids certainly have their place but IMO diesels do as well and diesel fuel is higher because of taxes on the fuel. Where I lived overseas diesel was significantly cheaper. There are enough in congress who want to add a 50 cent tax onto regular gas because of fuel efficient cars. Less fuel sold = less taxes. So RUG is going to go up eventually. Diesel might end up being cheaper since they are hitting diesel with higher taxes already. |
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 05, 2009 11:58 am)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 06, 2009 10:12 am) 
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Replying to: bobgwtw (May 07, 2009 8:42 pm) |
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Replying to: rick294 (May 05, 2009 1:12 pm) Example: Toyota Tundra rated highly with most ball's full red during first 3 years. After the fourth year the same ball's may be half red or even black. By the time the manufacturers change the model (5yrs), CR has the real statistics, or more reliable information available to better rate the car. At this point your researching a used car not a new one. Another good example is the VW Passat and the Ford Taurus. Passat was the "it" family car in the late 90's and rated very high at that time. If you look at the CR reports in the early 2000's, the same car is not recommended and is rated poorly for all kinds of electrical issues, etc. Taurus, enough said. CR is good for an airplane ride or sitting on the porch! |
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Replying to: rbk3 (May 17, 2009 12:26 pm)
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