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Replying to: wvgasguy (May 05, 2009 9:27 am) because I believe they do the best that they can. As most people realize, they do not "accept" vehicles from manufacturers, they purchase their own for testing, anonymously. They accept no advertising, etc. I believe they give a reasonably accurate portrayal of how a particular vehicle will hold up, etc. A lot of their info comes from the annual survey they send out to subscribers, the people who actually own and drive these vehicles. The results received plus the results of their own testing is how they arrive at their findings. In the April issue of this year, they found that the Prius was their top pick from over 300 vehicles tested and reported on. I was delighted - needless to say.
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 05, 2009 11:58 am) I've heard (and read) complaints in letters to CR over the years of just that - bias. I guess when someone's favorite doesn't rate very well, they become resentful and blame the one who down-rated it. After all, it couldn't be something wrong with the vehicle. And I don't mean that to be offensive. |
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Replying to: wvgasguy (May 05, 2009 6:09 am) The in dash nav units will most likely be money that cannot be recouped when the car is sold. I also like a big screen but the new Garmin and Tomtoms are considerably better and for around $500 they actually offer all the built-ins do. I will miss the big energy screens on the Prius but they have to cut money somewhere, so it's the backup camera and energy screen. I'm a fan of Honda and Subaru but have owned many makes and will never buy a Ford again nor any thing Chrysler touches. I want to see a sports car that gets good fuel economy like maybe a hybrid or diesel Miata. The Mini Cooper S will be coming out with a diesel in it's John Cooper Works but that's more about performance than economy. I miss some of my prior sports cars but no place to drive fast up here.
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 05, 2009 2:57 pm) Just assisted my daughter tonight in picking out and purchasing a 2010 Ford Fusion. Good price, nice car. It had a more comfortable rear seat than the CTS I sat in. Not that I'd buy it over the Camry, but I did like the interior better. She fell in love with the SYNC and remote start (she doesn't park in a garage and hates to sit in the snow to warm up her car). I checked with my sales buddy and had him change his 1st choice on his 2010 Prius allocation to Blizzard White with brown leather. Hopefully when it comes in he'll deal and I'll not have to walk and go look at a white FFH which I can get at X-Plan pricing |
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 05, 2009 2:57 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 05, 2009 5:27 pm) He didn't say it he typed it. Perhaps he should have his fingers washed with soap? 
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 05, 2009 5:27 pm) Well unless you have a track license and a bucket load of money your new Vette is not going to go any faster than my wife's Honda Fit. Bottom line is due to the bad economy the cops have become very vigilant of speeders. So while you can speed you'll get caught pretty fast up here and by speed I don't mean 10-15 mph over the limit. As far as a Miata being a sports car it is every bit a sports car and in fact is at least as true to it's heritage as a Vette. Arguably a sports car is 2 seats, 2 doors, manual transmission and a convertible top. Lots of 911 owners don't like that definition but speed is not part of the equation. Otherwise the older sports cars wouldn't count and they defined the definition. Someone once said "it's better to drive a slow car fast, than a fast car slow." So when you are stuck in traffic at 70mph in a 600-700 hp car getting (if you are lucky) 25mpg have fun because you won't get to enjoy the speed the Vette was built for. Diesels are fun to drive.  I know because I've owned them when I was in Asia for 5 years. If you want a big V8 muscle car then by all means get one. When gas gets back up to $4 a gallon or higher if they add on more taxes, you will have to get a second job to pay for your gas.  Oh and to correct your error the MINI is coming out with a John Cooper Works package with a diesel engine. The Miata just has it's 167hp gas engine and yes it's still a sports car.
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 06, 2009 3:13 am) |
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 06, 2009 10:12 am) At least I am not ignorant of diesels. but you most likely read only US related things. Diesel will be higher because of higher taxes on it. Also how many diesel cars have you owned? Driven? I lived in Asia for 5 years I drove a lot of diesels and I owned a Toyota Diesel Hi-Lux. You are spewing misinformation when you talk about smell and gelling and costs are high right now, but would come down if more is made. Also most diesels get far better fuel economy than hybrids... just not the ones they bring to the US. The few diesels that are sold here are unreliable VW's (engine good, rest of car bad) If you haven't driven diesels in other countries, I suggest that when you graduate high school you travel extensively as I have and try cars that you can't buy in the US. You would probably change your mind, since diesel is cheaper than regular gas in many countries. Gelling is not an issue since you get a winter blend for it. so unless you are driving a Peterbilt to work it's a non-issue until it's 20-30 below zero. Anyway there is a diesel forum so people can endlessly debate the merits of diesel. I'd buy one but not a VW and I can't justify buying a Merc. The Prius battery gets low in cold weather also, so nothing is perfect. I'll still buy the Prius until they bring over a decent diesel with a realistic price. But you can bathe in ignorance if you like, it's still a free country. 
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 06, 2009 4:43 pm)
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