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Replying to: tiff_c (May 03, 2009 8:07 am) You need to get it through your head now everybody wants a Honda or toyota. If GM can't complete against H or T than until last years fluke outsold T every year for what almost 75 years. To bring things closer to home in March GM outsold T by a little over 20 thousand unit. In April they sold more than 50 thou. more than T, heck even Ford out sold T in April. So it looks like you don't know what you are talking about. Here GM is in a world of hurt though not their fault but thats another story in itself and they still out sold big bad T. Get used to it there are other cars besides the Prius and those of us who can afford a little gas or those of us who are just to tall for a Prius or those of us who have worked hard for 40+ years feel we deserve a lux type car and by American whenever we can. I fit all the above and you won't find a foreign piece of clothes in my closet nor the same with my shoes. New Balance made in America instead of something else made by second graders. The talk here about oil and how it supports the midddle east maggets I bet have no problem supporting the companies who use 2nd graders to make their clothes. 
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 03, 2009 11:37 am) I'm going to assume you mean "Not everyone" and I agree. My point is not about the prius specifically. But the only reason GM sold more was the massive discounts they were offering. If Ford can make a car that gets 65 mpg in Europe but for some reason can't in the US then they have real problems. I don't want to see US plants shut down. I want to see domestic car makers manufacture BETTER cars. I do not see this happening at the moment. My last domestic was a 1995 Impala SS. Since then they haven't made anything I have liked. I would like to see decently built small cars from Chevy, Ford and Chrysler and cars that can last 10 years in real world driving but my memories are of far too many cars that fall apart not long after the warranty expires. That's not including the repairs during the warranty that the dealers try and weasel out of fixing. 1-2 months of sales figures are meaningless unless they are taken in context. Massive discounts account for most of that, not an increase in quality. If GM and Ford are so great, let them offer a 4 year 50K mile bumper to bumper warranty on everything. It won't happen! They'd lose their shirt fixing all those cars. I sure do miss the domestic cars from the 1960's!
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Replying to: tiff_c (May 03, 2009 10:46 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 04, 2009 2:43 am) No one would offer a warranty at all if they didn't have to in order to sell their cars. The longest warranties are offered by companies where the perception (right or wrong) is that the car will be expensive to maintain or won't last long. I've never bought an extended warranty on a Toyota because whatever glitches they have are usually worked out early. The 36,000 to 75,000 mile time frame is typically troublefree for most. Interesting on the Caddy. I've been looking at the CTS and if they have a 4yr bumper to bumper warranty they should advertise that more as that is a selling feature on a car with a lot of electronic's that I don't trust longterm. I'll have to look into that.
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Replying to: wvgasguy (May 04, 2009 3:50 am)
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Replying to: rick294 (May 04, 2009 2:53 pm) The CTS at $32K though would sway my decision. As a third vehicle it would not be the daily driver and reliability is not as big a concern as long as GM still is making Cadillac's and the warranty is still intact. If I get the Prius it will be the "go to" car for everyday driving. I like the idea of having at least 1 economy car though so it will take something big to push me in a different direction. |
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Replying to: rick294 (May 04, 2009 2:53 pm)
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Replying to: dmathews3 (May 05, 2009 2:49 am)
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Replying to: stevegold (May 05, 2009 4:34 am) It's Nippon Denso actually and it's a Japanese manufacturer. They make Nav units for quite a few companies. Better off buying a portable GPS, much cheaper and more easily upgraded or replaced. If a built in Nav unit breaks, it's no big deal as long as it's under warranty. If it's not... you're screwed!
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